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The "Hate Queen" offers up another lunatic rant. From!!!agate!!cdreams!richard.donovan Fri Oct 1 14:31:38 1993 Newsgroups: alt.activism Subject: Linda Thompson Update From: (Richard Donovan) Path:!!!agate!!cdreams!richard.donovan Distribution: world Message-ID: <> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 01:54:00 -0500 Organization: Computers & Dreams BBS (212) 888-6565 HST Lines: 171 Newsgroup:alt.activism,talk.politics.guns,alt.journalism.criticism * Original: FROM: Linda Thompson * Original: TO: All * Original: AREA: AEN NEWS * Forwarded by Linda Thompson * Forwarded Using QuickBBS 2.76 Ovr * Forwarded at 07:33 on 24-Sep-93 The following article says Janet Reno is politicking (forbidden by federal law -- but what else is new? She endorsed the Brady Bill, too.) It is more interesting for what ELSE it says, in big NEON letters, in the incidental mentions. First of all, what the heck is an "Associate Attorney General" and when was this position invented? Secondly, Webster Hubbell, the "associate Attorney General" is the head of the Rose Law Firm -- the law firm for which Hillary Clinton and the now-murdered-deceased Vincent Foster formerly worked. Hubbell is the father-in-law of Skeeter Ward, the executive director of Park On Meter, a company that obtained a $2.75 million Arkansas Development Finance Assoc. bank loan -- the first such loan ever made by the ADFA, which Clinton himself started -- through Hubbell's signature; the money was used in "classified" contracts with the military and other non-military but clandestine ventures, such as the manufacture of chemical bombs and cannisters and ferry drop tanks for the C130s transporting shipments of weapons to the Contras. Not incidentally, this firm is across the street from a US Army Reserve Chemical company. Also not incidentally, the Clinton's own interests in several Arkansas banks and Vince Foster had been their advisor on their investments. The POM company is located in Mena, Arkansas, where drug and gun running, using Evergreen Airlines (a CIA proprietary company) is now well establsihed. Perhaps at the root of Vincent Foster's death is the connection of these companies and these shady gun, biological weapons, and gun running and the CIA to the "Travel gate" scandal -- itself a money-laundering scheme involving the same players as always. Now we know why Willie boy has so many dead body guards and former "friends." And perhaps how the "associate attorney general position" came to be invented. AP 09/23/1993 WASHINGTON (AP) -- A top aide to Attorney General Janet Reno rejected criticism that her appearance with New Jersey Gov. Jim Florio, who is seeking re-election, violated her pledge to refrain from partisan politicking. Associate Attorney General Webster Hubbell told a news conference Thursday that Reno's trip stemmed from her concern, and President Clinton's, about assault weapons. "No one has second thoughts" about the trip, he said, despite the criticism. On a trip to Hackensack, N.J., last week, Reno stood beside the Democratic governor at a table of confiscated assault weapons and praised Florio's tough state ban on such weapons. Florio has said Republican gubernatorial candidate Christine Todd Whitman would weaken the ban if she defeats him in November. Whitman and two newspapers, the Record in Hackensack and the Wall Street Journal, criticized the visit. Whitman said Reno had violated her pledge, at a confirmation hearing, to steer clear of partisan politics. The newspapers said the appearance politicized the attorney general's office. Fuel was added to the controversy when USA Today reported that Democratic Party Chairman David Wilhelm said that even though Clinton had not campaigned for Florio, Reno had. However, USA Today reporter Richard Benedetto said Thursday that on reviewing his tape of the interview, he realized he had misunderstood his notes and that Wilhelm never specifically said Reno had campaigned for Florio. On Thursday, Hubbell said, "The attorney general and the president are very, very concerned about assault weapons, especially assault weapons in the hands of youth, and that was the purpose of her visit to New Jersey." Hubbell was filling in for Reno at her weekly news conference because she was in Buffalo, N.Y. During her appearance at the Bergen County (N.J.) administration building, where there were no campaign aides or posters in sight, Reno had said, "I think it is fitting and proper that I be in New Jersey. People spoke out and said they don't want this type of gun." Whitman, meanwhile, issued a press release quoting Reno's statement to Senate Judiciary Committee in March that she hoped "with all my heart" to "make my approach to this job as nonpolitical as possible." If she were invited to a political event or fund-raising dinner for a candidate, Reno told Sen. Paul Simon, D-Ill., "I'd say, 'Why don't you find something else for me to do and let me try to be the nation's lawyer and stay out of politics?"' "Obviously," Whitman said in her news release, "that was before Ms. Reno was dispatched to New Jersey campaign for the governor. And, just as obviously, that pledge taken in March was quickly forgotten." * Origin: Gun Control=Criminals & Gestapo vs. the Unarmed. (1:231/110) ============================================================================== * Original: FROM: Linda Thompson * Original: TO: All * Original: AREA: AEN NEWS * Forwarded by Linda Thompson * Forwarded Using QuickBBS 2.76 Ovr * Forwarded at 07:36 on 24-Sep-93 Well, informed AEN readers will know that the Waco Tribune-Herald is a disreputable, rag-mag of a newspaper, that published information that had already been proven to be false -- lies and slander -- against the Branch Davidians, in a well-orchestrated and cooperative effort with the feds to murder the Branch Davidians. The Waco Tribune-Herald was the first to use the terms "cult" and "heavily fortified compound" and "Beer-drinking, guitar playing leader who thinks he's Jesus Christ", etc. Yes, now comes the AP, that bastion of integrity that has been running federal press releases as "AP releases" (coincidentally, with no one's name on them). Know the enemy. Here's a pretty good indicator of a few of the people who have undermined journalistic integrity and brought us the PRAVDA and lies we now see daily: AP 9/23/1993 MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- The Associated Press Managing Editors association presented its 1993 Public Service Awards to The Miami Herald and the Waco (Texas) Tribune-Herald on Thursday. The Miami Herald, in the 50,000-and-over circulation category, was selected for efforts during and after Hurricane Andrew to produce and distribute the paper, with extra editions and extra pages of information to help those hardest hit by the destruction. The Waco Tribune-Herald won in the under-50,000 circulation class for its series reported just before the federal raid on cult leader David Koresh, revealing his manipulations and abuses of people, as well as his stockpiling of arms. Sue Reisinger, managing editor of the Broward edition of The Miami Herald and chair of the judging panel, presented the plaques at the APME convention here. The other judges were Ralph Langer, senior vice president and executive editor of The Dallas Morning News and a past president of APME; Paul Janensch, also a past president of APME and editor of the Telegram & Gazette in Worcester, Mass.; Robert W. Ritter, president of APME and editor of Gannett News Service; and William E. Ahearn, vice president and executive editor of The Associated Press. The other finalists in the 50,000-and-over category were The Boston Globe, The Plain Dealer of Cleveland, The Dallas Morning News, the Sun-Sentinel of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., The Ledger of Lakeland, Fla., The Star-Tribune of Minneapolis, The San Diego Union-Tribune, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and The Wichita (Kan.) Eagle. Under 50,000-circulation finalists were the Albuquerque (N.M.) Tribune, The Southeast Missourian of Cape Girardeau, Mo., The Carthage (Mo.) Press, The Daily Progress of Charlottesville, Va., the Leader-Telegram of Eau Claire, Wis., The Muskegon (Mich.) Chronicle, The Day of New London, Conn., The Olympian of Olympia, Wash., and the Tribune Chronicle of Warren, Ohio. --- QuickBBS 2.76 Ovr * Origin: Gun Control=Criminals & Gestapo vs. the Unarmed. (1:231/110) <<<<>>>> --- JABBER v1.2 Big Brother is here: but he brought the whole family. From!!!olivea!pagesat!!crash!sflorek Mon Oct 4 13:47:33 1993 Newsgroups: alt.society.civil-liberty, Path:!!!olivea!pagesat!!crash!sflorek From: (Steven Florek) Subject: Re: ST JANET IS INNOCENT AGAIN Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA Date: 04 Oct 93 01:24:02 PDT Message-ID: <1993Oct04.012402.25830@crash> References: <28kn35$> Lines: 35 In article <28kn35$> (Anthony L. Kimball) writes: >Todd J. Dicker ( wrote: >: she were asked to cover up any illegal or unethical activity, she would >: either expose it or resign. She has EARNED her reputation, it's not a >: manufactured facade. > >If torturing and killing 85 people in a batch (disregarding for the moment >the other smaller batches) is neither illegal nor unethical, >the law is much worse than an ass and the ethos in question is the moral >code of the devil. Let us list some of the things she has done since her arrival in DC: 1. Covered Ron Brown's tracks. 2. Covered Dan Rostenkowski's tracks. 3. Covered the FBI and BATF's tracks. 4. Made up allegations about 'drug labs', 'child abuse', the types of weapons Koresh and his followers had. Ok, she didn't do it personally. 5. Is concerned with why Justice didn't get a conviction in the Randy Weaver case. Not at all concerned with how marshals killed his son, wife, and dog to boot. 6. Is determined to boot out John Demjanjuk. 7. Wants to place abortion clinics under federal protection. 8. Wants to make sure that government can break your encryption. 9. Wants your guns. 10. Promotes the theory that Koresh burned himself down. 10 is of course an arbitrary number. Feel free to add. Fine integrity there. I agree, however, that she probably has more integrity than the rest of the administration. Steven Florek. Green, not blue. From!sgiblab!!!!!!portnoy!!financial.opportunities Sun Oct 24 00:16:13 1993 Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: "Okay. Who's next on our list?" From: (Financial Opportunities) Path:!sgiblab!!!!!!portnoy!!financial.opportunities Distribution: world Message-ID: <> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 93 18:39:00 -0400 Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) Lines: 68 Just thought you'd like to know what Grandma Janet's up to now: RENO PROPOSES COORDINATOR FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, DEA SURVIVES By MICHAEL KIRKLAND WASHINGTON (UPI) _ Attorney General Janet Reno said Thursday she is proposing that a new position be created within the Justice Department _ a director who would oversee all law enforcement agencies of the department. The new director would coordinate activities where the agencies' investigations overlap. Those agencies include the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the U.S. Marshals Service and the U.S. Border Patrol. The areas of overlapping responsibilities ``would include such matters as drug trafficking, violence and the apprehension of fugitives", Reno said, reading from a statement. Reno also proposes that FBI Director Louis Freeh become the first director of Investigative Agency Policies while continuing his present job. Her proposal does not include any FBI takeover of the law enforcement functions of the DEA, as apparently recommended by Vice President Al Gore's National Performance Review. ``DEA has a specialized mission...and does an excellent job,'' Reno said. ``It's important...that the specialized mission should be continued.'' DEA's primary responsiblity is the enforcement of the federal narcotic laws _ which sometimes includes overseas operations to prevent drugs from being brought into the United States. The agency has offices in 54 countries, where agents liason with host governments. Agents in a special enforcement unit, ``Operation Snowcap,'' are trained to survive in the jungle and work with Latin American nations to locate and dismantle cocaine laboratories. Reno said there is no contradiction between Gore's review and her proposal. In fact, she said, her recommendation was made in continuous consultation with Gore. Reno said she reported her final recommendation to Gore Wednesday night: ``He said that sounded good.'' The attorney general has contended all along that the ``headline'' or ``Action Point'' in the review released earlier this year did not reflect the text of Gore's recommendations. The ``Action Point'' called for the FBI to take over the law enforcement functions of the DEA, as well as the police functions of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. The AFT, part of the Treasury Department, came in for massive public criticism following a bungled raid on a cult compound in Waco, Texas, last spring in which four ATF agents died. But Reno said the explanatory text following the ``Action Point'' did not specifically mention a takeover of law enforcement functions - which would have effectively ended the existence of the DEA and the ATF. Reno believes the new directorship can be set up without formal congressional approval. ``I think we can do it ourselves (on President Clinton's order),'' Reno said, but she added that her proposal follows extensive consultation with members of Congress. For the time being, the new directorship would mean more staff rather than a reduction of force at the Justice Department. If Reno's proposal is approved by the president - and it almost certainly will be - Freeh would pick up a new administrative staff as director of Investigative Agency Policies, in addition to his immediate staff as FBI director. Reno she hopes the new staff can be kept to less than a dozen people." So Janet Nero HAS learned something from Waco; she's decided that things need to be *much* more efficiently handled next time! Cheers! John W. I received the following brochure from a source who wishes to remain anonymous along with the instructions to post it on the computer networks immediately. It concerns an upcoming classified Conference at Johns Hopkins University on Non-Lethal Technology and is sponsored by Los Alamos National Laboratory. The featured speakers are to be the Nobel Laureate physicist, Dr. Edward Teller; the Former Military Advisor to President Bush, LTG Richard G. Trefry, USA (Ret.), and the current Secretary General of the United States, Janet Reno. The conference is to be chaired by Dr. John Alexander, the Program Manager for Non-Lethal Defense, Los Alamos National Laboratory. The brochure itself looks to be authentic and carried no indication of being in any way classified or restricted (if it is I guess I'll find out soon enough). If anyone can confirm this event I'd appreciate hearing from them. Bob Dunn P.O. Box 94627 Lincoln, Ne. 68509 Fidonet 1:285/205 -=BEGIN TEXT=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NON-LETHAL DEFENSE a classified Conference sponsored by Los Alamos National Laboratory With the support of the American Defense Preparedness Association Kossiakoff Center Applied Physics Laboratory Johns Hopkins University, Laurel MD November 16 - 17, 1993 OBJECTIVE AND SCOPE Non-lethal defense has emerged as a potent new means of applying force and giving commanders a wider array of options. The purpose of a non-lethal defense is to inhibit an enemies ability to prosecute a war or engage in other hostile actions. Non-lethal defense is an approach that explores options for attacking targets of strategic value, including nontraditional foes such as terrorists and international drug traffickers. Non-lethal weapons offer new options to meet rapidly changing security requirements for the United States. These devices are providing for the first time a wide range of choices for planners negotiating the drastically changing security challenges confronting the United States. Non-lethal concepts are currently being developed by th U.S. Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps. The focus is on providing technologies that support conventional operations and have applicability across the continuum of conflict. Many of these techniques are designed to degrade the threat infrastucture in support of parallel warfare objectives. Different organizations have different approaches to the concept of non-lethal defense as well as use of different terminology. In essence, non-lethal defense is an emerging technological option being developed conceptionally with a sea of technical opportunity. The purpose of this Conference is to bring together industry, government and academia to explore the potential of non-lethal defense and identify requirements so that the defense community can work together in leveraging the non-lethal concept. Industry, particularly, will benefit from a more precise understanding of requirements and operational constraints regarding non-lethal defense technologies. All attendees will have the opportunity to embrace a new perspective in international relations. The Conference Sessions Are Secret, U.S. Only. AGENDA TUESDAY, 16 NOVEMBER 1993 ------------------------- 7:00AM Registration Opens, Kossiakoff Center Exhibits Open 8:30AM Welcome & Introductory Remarks MG William E. Eicher, USA (Ret.) Vice President ADPA. 8:45AM Opening Address GEN E.C. "Shy" Meyer, USA (Ret.) Former Chief of Staff, U.S. Army. 9:15AM Non-Lethal Defense Technology Dr. John Alexander Los Alamos National Laboratory 9:45AM OSD Perspective TBD 10:15AM Break 10:45AM Peacekeeping & Peace Enforcement Operations Ms. Sarah Sewell, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Peacekeeping and Peace Enforcement 11:15AM National Institute of Justice "Less-Than-Lethal" Program Mr. David Boyd, NIJ Director of Research & Technology 12:00PM Lunch Speaker: LTG Richard G. Trefry, USA (Ret.) 1:30PM Incremental Aggression: Requirements for the Future Dr. Dan Goure, Deputy Director, Political-Military Studies CSIS, and Former Director of Competitive Strategies OSD 2:30PM Break 3:00 - 5:00PM Services & Special Operations Perspectives - Army LTG William H. Forster, USA Military Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of the Army, (Research, Development, & Acquisition) - Navy VADM William A. Owens, USN Chief of Naval Operations (Resources, Warfare Requirements & Assesments) - Air Force Maj Gen Kenneth Minihan, USAF Commander, Air Force Intelligence Command - Special Operations GEN Carl Stiner, USA (Ret.) (invited) Former CINC, Special Operations Command 6:00PM Reception in the Exhibit Area Kossiakoff Center 7:00PM Banquet Guest Speaker: Dr. Edward Teller WEDNESDAY, 17 NOVEMBER 1993 --------------------------- 7:00AM Registration Opens Exhibits Open 8:30AM Technical Evaluation - Strategies to Tasks Dr. David Ochmanek, Deputy Assistant Secretary Defense for Strategy 9:00AM RF Weapons: A Very Attractive Non-Lethal Operation Dr. George Baker, Assistant for Program Development, Defense Nuclear Agency 9:30AM ARPA Perspective Dr. James Richardson, Special Assistant to the Director 10:00AM Break 10:30AM Future Technology Conference Report (Quantico, VA 31 Aug-2 Sep 93) Mr. Steve Small, Arms Program Liaison, Joint Services Small Arms Program 10:50AM Simulation & Modelling: Key to Non-Lethal Weapons Mr. Andy Andrews, Non-Lethal Project Leader, Los Alamos National Laboratory 11:10AM Technology Presentations - Acoustic Technology Dr. John Dering, Scientific Applications Research Associates (SARA) - High Power Microwave Technology Dr. Henry Brisker, U.S. Army Research Laboratory - Battlefield Optical Munitions Dr. Martin Plitch, Los Alamos National Laboratory - One Container Sticky Foams Dr. Peter B. Rand, Sandia National Laboratory - Application of Extremely Low Frequency Electromagnetic Fields to Non-Lethal Weapons Dr. Clay Easterly, Oak Ridge National Laboratory - Non-Lethal Weapons Dr. Milt Finger, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory 12:00PM Lunch Speaker: The Honorable Janet Reno, Attorney General of the United States 1:30PM Technology Presentations - Voice Synthesis Dr. Dave Morgan, Lockheed-Sanders - Airbag Restraint Technology Ms. Donna Marts, Idaho National Engineering Laboratory 2:30PM Break 3:00PM Technology Presentations - Chemical/Biological Anti-Terrorism Ms. Astrid Lewis, U.S. Army Chemical Research & Development Command - Biological Challenges Dr. Pat Unkefer, Los Alamos National Laboratory - Non-Lethal Research at INEL: Fracture & Dynamic Behavior, Biotechnology, & Structural Ceramics Dr. Jonathan Epstein, Idaho National Engineering Laboratory - Contaminant Payloads Mr. Ed Colston, Naval Surface Weapons Center, Dahlgren 4:45PM Conference Closes -------------------------------------------------------------------- GENERAL INFORMATION SECURITY CLEARANCE: Clearance information must be submitted through each individual's Security Office and forwarded to: Los Alamos National Laboratory P.O. Box 1663, MS B236 Los Alamos, NM 87545 OR the information may be faxed to (505)667-1368, use the enclosed clearance form. --------------------------------------------------------------------- -=END TEXT=- --- ~ SLMR 2.1a ~ Psychoceramics: The study of crackpots. - JetMail v1.14a3 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire -- Bob Dunn - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bob.Dunn@p0.f31.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG From!sgiblab!!!!uunet!psinntp!channel1!searchnet.zec Thu Sep 23 12:46:15 1993 Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Clinton Body Count 01 From: (Searchnet Zec) Path:!sgiblab!!!!uunet!psinntp!channel1!searchnet.zec Distribution: world Message-ID: <> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 04:43:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) * 617-864-0100 Info * 617-354-7077 Modem Lines: 147 ------------------------------------------------------------------- * Originally By: Linda Thompson * Originally To: All * Originally Re: CLINTON BODY COUNT * Original Area: FIDO-AEN_News Service * Forwarded by : Blue Wave v2.12 PART 1 OF 3 PARTS COINCIDENCE OR THE KISS OF DEATH? Copyright (c) 1993 by Linda D. Thompson, All Rights Reserved. AEN News, Fidonet 1:231/110, BBS line 317-881-2743, Voice: 317-780-5204 In investigating events surrounding the massacre at Waco, I have made some rather startling discoveries. For instance, I discovered that three of the four ATF agents killed during the initial seige at Waco had been Bill Clinton's bodyguards during his presidential campaign. Film footage from the initial seige (which can be seen in the video tape, "Waco, the Big Lie"), shows an ATF agent throwing a grenade and shooting a machine gun into the room where three other ATF agents have just entered a window. In other words, this footage appears to show that these agents were assasinated. In the March 3, 1993, Dallas Morning News, all three of the agents who went into the window on the roof of the Branch Davidian house at Mt. Carmel were reported by the ATF to have been killed inside. This certainly seemed curious, as did the connections to Waco of numerous highly placed government officials. Curiouser and curiouser. A former CIA agent and a former FBI agent both told me to begin checking into the body count around Hillary and Bill Clinton, during Clinton's rise to governor of Arkansas and since he has become President. With just a little preliminary research of the period just prior to the election through the present, I found 21 people who Clinton knew personally, many of whom he knew intimately, and several who had been his escorts or bodyguards, all of whom had died under mysterious circumstances or been ki "accidental" airplane or helicopter crashes: CLINTON BODY COUNT (Not including 96 Branch Davidians murdered in Waco, Texas, Feb. 28, 1993 through April 19, 1993): PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM: + 2 July 30, 1992, C. Victor Raiser II, 52, the national finance co-chairman of the Clinton for President campaign, and his son, R. Montgomery Raiser, 22, were among five (5) people killed July 30 in a crash of a private plane near Dillingham, Alaska. Vincent Raiser was a past national finance chairman of the Democratic National Committee, and he served on the boards of the Democratic Business Council and the Center for National Policy and the board of advisers of the Democratic Leadership Counc native of Indianapolis, he graduated from Princeton University and received a law degree from the University of Virginia. He worked in Buffalo before moving to Washington in 1979. He was a specialist in communications and corporate law and consultant to the law firm of Jones Day Reavis & Pogue until 1991. He was chairman of the American Mobile Satellite Corp., a telecommunications development company in Washington, and vice chairman of Mobile Telecommunication Technologies Corp. of Jackso n, Miss., a pagin g and voice messaging company. Its main subsidiary in Washington is SkyTel Corp., a paging company. [Reported in OBITUARIES, "D.C. Lawyer C.V. Raiser II And Son Die," The Washington Post, August 01, 1992, FINAL Edition, Section: METRO, p. b07.] + 1 July 21, 1993 (UPI): Vincent Foster, A top legal aide to President Clinton was announced to have "committed suicide in a park outside Washington," by the White House. In a statement, White House press secretary Dee Dee Myers said Vince Foster Jr., 48, the White House deputy counsel, was found dead in a suburban Virginia park, apparently killed by a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Foster, originally from Hope, Ark., like Clinton, had come to Washington from the law firm of Hillary Rodham Clinton. No note was found near the body, which was discovered by local authorities in Fort Marcy Park, near Fairfax, Va., officials said, nor was any possible reason Foster might have taken his life put forward. Foster most recently was involved in the administration's so-called Travelgate scandal, involving the abrupt firing of seven longtime employees from the White House travel office and the hiring of a distant cousin of Clinton's. An internal investigation by White House chief of staff Thomas McLarty documented Foster's involvement in the process, which included contacts with the first lady on the subject of possible criminal wrongdoing. But Foster was not among the four White House staffers reprimanded for their roles in the dismissals. Foster was among those responsible for initiating a private audit, then an FBI investigation of the matter. [Also reported in "Park Police To Conduct Inquiry 'Routine' Probe Set On Foster's Death," The Washington Post, July 27, 1993, FINAL Edition By: Michael Isikoff, Washington Post Staff Writer, Section: A SECTION, p. a08.] Foster was purportedly speaking with an Editor at a Washington newspaper prior to his death. He was found shot in the back of the head with a 1913 Colt .38 revolver which he did not own. The revolver had no serial number, even though all Colt revolvers since the late 1800's have had serial numbers except a special series issued to the CIA. Foster advised the Clinton's on their finances. There are presently at least two bank scandals that are emerging from Little Rock Arkansas, involving banks in which the Clintons have an interest. Additionally, it is now well established that gun and drug running out of Mena, Arkansas, via CIA's Evergreen Aviation and Pat Foley's Summit Aviataion has fuelled political coffers for sometime, as the beneficiaries turned a blind eye. Perhaps Foster was privy to this information, among others. PART 2 of 3 PARTS Copyright (c) 1993 Linda D. Thompson, All Rights Reserved AEN News, BBS Line 317-881-2743, Fido 1:231/110, Voice: 317-780-5204 + 1 June 22, 1993, the partially decomposed body of Paul Wilcher, a 49-year-old investigative lawyer, was found on a toilet in his Capitol Hill apartment in Washington, D.C. At the time of his death, he was investigating the "October Surprise" conspiracy during the 1980 federal election campaign. He had been interviewing an inmate who claimed to have piloted George Bush to Paris so he could secretly seek to delay the release of 52 American hostages in Iran. [Reported in the "Autopsies delayed as body count rises," The Washington Times, Thursday, July 15, 1993, By: Brian Reilly - Edition: Final Section: A Page: A1.] Not mentioned in this article are other facts. Prior to his death, Wilcher had recently spoken with John Parsons, a producer of syndicated television programs, about making a documentary of his findings. He had also spoken with John Vassillos, the attorney for CIA operative Mike Riconosciuto. Riconosciuto claims he was involved in a web of underworld, CIA, and Department of Justice dealings, revealed in allegations brought by a computer company called Inslaw Inc. that the Justice Department had st s software product, "Promis," then driven the firm into bankruptcy and that the program had been sold to countries all over the world by persons affiliated with then attorney-general Ed Meese. Riconosciuto says that the program was provided to Wackenhut Corp. of Coral Gables, FL, and that Wackenhut hired 50 of the world's top programmers to modify the code of the software at the Southern California Cabazon Indian reservation. Riconosciuto also has detailed his involvement in gun running and drug dealing conducted out of Mena, Arkansas. Danny Casalero, 44, a reporter who was investigating the Inslaw scandall and had spoken with Riconosciuto, was found murdered in a hotel bathtub in Washing C. in 1991, the day after telling friends and family that was about to receive material that would provide him with documentation linking Inslaw to October Surprise and the Iran-Contra scandals. Paul Wilcher was also investigating these same links, as well as their connection to the deaths of the ATF agents and Branch Davidians at Mt. Carmel at the time of his own death. THE USS DEATHSHIP (a/k/a USS ROOSEVELT): Both the Carrier Roosevelt and the 1st Armored Division figure prominantly in a "Nato Peacekeeping Plan" for Serbia/Bosnia. Both also figure prominantly in three separate crashes, killing more than a dozen people associated with Clinton [Reported in "All Plans Include Key Navy Continued in the next message... From!sgiblab!!!!uunet!psinntp!channel1!searchnet.zec Thu Sep 23 12:48:03 1993 Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Clinton Body Count 02 From: (Searchnet Zec) Path:!sgiblab!!!!uunet!psinntp!channel1!searchnet.zec Distribution: world Message-ID: <> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 04:43:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) * 617-864-0100 Info * 617-354-7077 Modem Lines: 149 Continued from the previous message... Role Virginian-Pilot" (Norfolk, VA) (VP) - Saturday, May 8, 1993, By: Phyllis W. Jordan, Edition: FINAL Section: FRONT Page: A8.] And interestingly, the commanders of both the Roosevelt and the 1st Armored Division either die re replaced in late February or early March, 1993, as did personnel involved in escorting or guarding Clinton on the Carrier Roosevelt: + 4 February 23, 1993: Maj. Gen. Jarrett J. Robertson, 52, the deputy commanding general of V Corps, died when an Army UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter crashed as it attempted to land at Wiesbaden air base February 23, 1993. V Corps is an armored force headquartered in nearby Frankfurt, and is the U.S. Army's chief combat component in Europe which currently has troops in Somalia and a medical unit in Croatia. Also killed were Col. William J. Densberger, 47, the corps' chief of operations and plans; Col. Robert J. Kelly, 48, its chief of intelligence; and Spec. Gary L. Rhodes, 23, the helicopter crew chief. The officers were returning from a meeting at the U.S. European Command headquarters in Stuttgart when their Blackhawk fell suddenly to the ground not far from the Wiesbaden air base's control tower and burst into flames.[Reported in "U.S. General, Aides Die in Helicopter Crash in Germany," The Washington Post, February 25, 1993, FINAL Edition, By: Special to The Washington Po st, Section: A SECTION, p. a14.] And we now have the entire U.S. 1st Armored Division, in this same European Command, under the direct control of a German general. On March 2, 1993, Rear Adm. L.E. Allen Jr. relieved Rear Adm. Frederick L. Lewis as commanding officer of Carrier Group 4 and Commander Carrier Striking Force on March 2, 1993, in Norfolk, Va. (which includes the USS Roosevelt). Allen was formerly stationed in Washington, D.C., where he served as deputy director for operations on the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Lewis was reassigned to a land job as commander of Naval Doctrine Command, which later became operational on March 12. [Reported in "COMMAND C " VIRGINIAN-PILOT (Norfolk, VA) (VP) - Tuesday, March 2, 1993, Edition: FINAL Section: LOCAL Page: D4]. + 5 March 25, 1993: Five Navy aviators were lost at sea at 7 p.m., Thursday, March 25, 1993, when their E-2C Hawkeye early warning plane crashed into the sea while attempting to return to the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Navy officials said yesterday. Hours earlier, the Roosevelt had arrived in the Ionian Sea on a six-month European deployment. The carrier's air wing had just completed its first operational mission, flying night combat air patrol off the Yugoslav coast, while Germany-based U.S. cargo planes dropped food to besieged Muslims in Bosnia. [Reported in "Five Navy Fliers Lost at Sea," The Washington Post, March 27, 1993, Final Edition, By: Barton Gellman, Washington Post Staff Writer, Section: A, p. A24.] These five men had been escorts for President Clinton when he visited the Carrier Roosevelt. + 4 May 19, 1993: On May 21, 1993, the Marine Corps grounded its entire presidential fleet of nine VH-60N helicopters pending the outcome of the investigation of a crash involving one of the presidential fleet helicopters, a VH-60N Blackhawk helicopter that went down in a heavily wooded area near the Potomac River about 35 miles southwest of Washington on May 19, 1993. Killed in the crash were Maj. William S. Barkley, Jr., Staff Sgt. Brian D. Haney, and Sgt. Timothy D. Sabel, and Capt. Scott J. Reynolds. Part 3 of 3 Parts Copyright (c) 1993 Linda D. Thompson, All Rights Reserved. AEN News, Fido 1:231/110, BBS line 317-881-2743, Voice: 317-780-5204 Maj. Barkley, 27, of Hickory, N.C. became a naval aviator in 1977 and was assigned to the presidential squadron in January 1990. He was one of only eight pilots in the squadron authorized to fly the president, according to Betty Jo Bragg, longtime secretary to Barkley's father. Sgt. Timothy D. Sabel, 27, of Ripon, Wis., was "responsible for the maintenance of the airplane. He goes on all flights," said Master Sgt. Paul Earle, a Marine spokesman at Quantico, Virginia (which is also FBI headquarters). Staff Sgt. Brian D. Haney, 32, of North Ridgeville, Ohio, was the quality assurance representative on the helicopter. Carolyn Haney, his mother, said her son had flown with President George Bush to Europe and in the presidential campaign "all over the United States." Capt. Scott J. Reynolds, 33, of Wausau, Wis., joined the Marines in 1984, was designated a naval aviator in 1987 and was a veteran of the Persian Gulf War Clinton had flown once on that particular craft, according to White House spokeswoman Dee Dee Myers. That flight took the president to the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt off the Virginia coast in March, she said. [Reported in "Marines identify crash victims," Washington Times, Saturday, May 22, 1993, Edition: Final Section: METROPOLITAN LOCAL ROUNDUP MARYLAND, page A11; "Charles County helicopter crash kills 4 Marines," Thursday, May 20, 1993, By: Jim Keary, Washington Times, Edition: Final Section: METROPOLITAN Page: B4; "Helicopter fleet is grounded," Friday, May 21, 1993, Washington Times, Edition: Final Section: METROPOLITAN LOCAL ROUNDUP, MARYLAND, Page: B2; "9 White House Copters Grounded As Crash Victims Are Mourned," May 21, 1993, FINAL Edition, By: Eugene L. Meyer, The Washington Post, Section: METRO, Story Type: News Maryland, p. D01.] Notice, above, that the President's escorts during Clinton's one visit to the Carrier Roosevelt on March 12, 1993, were all later killed in a plane crash, too. More Bodyguards: + 4 February 28, 1993. In the initial assault on Mt. Carmel in Waco, Texas, four agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms were killed. Those killed in the attack were : Steve Willis, 32, of Houston; Robert J. Williams, 26, Little Rock, Ark.; Conway LeBleu, 30, New Orleans; and Todd McKeehan, 28, New Orleans. [Reported in "UPDATE: AT LEAST FIVE DEAD, 15 INJURED IN TWO SHOOTOUTS AT TEXAS CULT COMPOUND WACO, TEXAS," MARCH 1, 1993, UPI.] President Clinton himself revealed that these men had been his bodyguards in a speech on March 18, 1993, before employees of the Treasury Department: "My prayers and I'm sure yours are still with the families of all four of the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents who were killed in Waco -- Todd McKeehan and Conway Le Bleu of New Orleans; Steve Willis of Houston, and Robert Williams from my hometown of Little Rock. Three of those four were assigned to my security during the course of the primary or general election." ["REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT TO EMPLOYEES OF THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT," The Cash Room, Treasury Department, March 18, 1993, 11:48 A.M. EST.] 21 - Total confirmed deaths of persons connected to Clinton in the past year. (I have not included people who were also killed in the crashes with whom there is no confirmed link at this time, such as the three persons who were killed in the same crash as Vincent Raiser and his son). All of these people died of unnatural causes. Four were shot, 17 were killed in crashes of helicopters or airplanes. The statistical probabilities of Clinton knowing 21 people, all of whom died either in accidents or under mysterious circumstances in less than a year's time, is virtually zero. And Where Do These Guys Fit In: + 3 July 21, 1993, (AP): Three Texas National Guardsmen, reportedly mistaken for pop-up targets, were shot to death by fellow soldiers Wednesday during a night vision training exercise. "They were hit by fire from other soldiers," said Lt. Col. Ed Komandosky, a spokesman at Guard headquarters in Austin. Komandosky said the victims were members of the 3rd Battalion, 141st Infantry of the Texas National Guard in McAllen, had experience in the training exercise and "had been in the Guard for some time." Killed were Spc. Daniel F. Benitez, 27, of Donna; Spc. Jose C. Ramos Jr., 42, of Weslaco; and Sgt. Raul Cardenas, 27, of Weslaco were pronounced dead at Darnall Army Community Hospital in Killeen. Did these people have any connection to the flame-throwing tank that was used to set the fire at Mt. Carmel, in Waco, Texas on April 19, 1993? All of them were Latinos. Were they killed in South America and Continued in the next message... From!sgiblab!!!!uunet!psinntp!channel1!searchnet.zec Thu Sep 23 13:14:45 1993 Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Clinton Body Count 03 From: (Searchnet Zec) Path:!sgiblab!!!!uunet!psinntp!channel1!searchnet.zec Distribution: world Message-ID: <> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 04:43:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) * 617-864-0100 Info * 617-354-7077 Modem Lines: 31 Continued from the previous message... an accident arranged to explain their deaths? + 1 Could John A. Wilson have known too much about insider politics? John A. Wilson, for 16 years a City Councilman in Washington, D.C., was found dead from a supposed suicide. His wife had already left for work and he was found in his underwear, hanging in his basement, later in the morning, as if he had awakened, gone to the basement and hung himself. No suicide note was found. What is emerging from the research I have conducted is a clear picture that those who know too much or those who interfere with the one world government plan, die. Did any of these people know too much? And what is it that they know or saw? As the information develops, I will provide updates. Stay tuned. [Linda Thompson is an attorney in Indianapolis, Indiana. She is Chairman of the American Justice Federation, a group dedicated to stopping the New World Order and getting the truth out to the American public. Linda Thompson and the American Justice Federation have produced a videotape, "Waco, the Big Lie," which shows that a flame-throwing tank was used to set the fire at Mt. Carmel in Waco, Texas, proving that the government murdered the Branch Davidians and intentionally destroyed the evidence. To obtain a copy of this video, which is 32 minutes long, send $20 to: American Justice Federation, 3850 South Emerson Ave., Indianapolis, IN 46203.] --- RM 1.2 00257 SearchNet 508-586-6977 Download SEARCHNT.ZIP From!!!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail Wed Oct 20 18:28:49 1993 Path:!!!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail From: Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (The White House) Newsgroups:, Subject: CLINTON: NAFTA Notes 1993-10-15 Date: 18 Oct 1993 06:51:36 -0400 Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab Lines: 70 Sender: Message-ID: <> NNTP-Posting-Host: Xref: The White House NAFTA NOTES Friday, October 15, 1993 _________________________________________________________________ Baltimore Union Workers Endorse NAFTA During Pena Visit * Steelworkers Local 15338 at Ellicott Machine Corp. in Baltimore yesterday endorsed NAFTA during a visit by Transportation Secretary Federico Pena. Pena toured the company with Maryland Governor Donald Schaefer and other Maryland state leaders. Ellicott Machine exports some 80 percent of its products overseas. Bentsen, Former Perotistas Join to Announce Texas Business for NAFTA * Today in Dallas, Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen and a group of Ross Perot's former supporters joined with other prominent Texans to announce a group called Texas Business for NAFTA. The group is being headed by former Perot campaign chairman and lawyer Tom Luce who wrote an op-ed in the Dallas Morning News on Wednesday. Luce wrote that "I think Ross is wrong about the [NAFTA]. I strongly believe that it is good for our state and our nation." Luce cited Texas Comptroller John Sharp's estimate that 113,000 jobs will be created in Texas with NAFTA's passage, and said that nation-wide "we will gain twice as many jobs as we will lose." He called on Texans to "display the courage to do what's right" and support NAFTA. Georgia, Alabama, Administration Leaders Discuss NAFTA at White House * Nearly one hundred business, community and environmental leaders from Georgia and Alabama came to the White House yesterday to talk NAFTA with the Vice President, CEA Chair Tyson, Interior Secretary Babbitt, and NAFTA Coordinator Daley. * Many representatives of small manufacturing companies attended the meeting. "I am here to give my full support to NAFTA," Robert Lukat VP and General Manager of employee-owned Atlanta Saw Company told reporters. "I can tell you personally the benefits of getting into the export business. Our business with Mexico has increased four times over the last several years, and our exports to Mexico have increased over six times. 1975, our company established a joint-venture with a company in Mexico. We just notified out partner that upon the signing of NAFTA, we will dissolve our joint-venture and change our relationship to strictly a distributorship, and we will move the manufacturing jobs that were part of our joint-venture back home to the U.S." Administration NAFTA Update * President Clinton met yesterday with another group of lawmakers to discuss the job creation benefits of NAFTA, his second meeting this week... The Cabinet fan out continued: along with Pena in Baltimore yesterday, Energy Secretary O'Leary spoke in Oklahoma, CEA Chair Tyson spoke in Atlanta and Commerce Secretary Brown visited San Francisco & Los Angeles on Wednesday, Deputy Agriculture Secretary Rominger is in Wichita today, and Treasury Secretary Bentsen travelled to Texas Thursday and today. # # # From!!!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail Wed Oct 20 18:29:44 1993 Path:!!!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail From: Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (The White House) Newsgroups:, Subject: CLINTON: President's Radio Address 1993-10-16 Date: 18 Oct 1993 07:46:21 -0400 Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab Lines: 146 Sender: Message-ID: <> NNTP-Posting-Host: Xref: THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary ______________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release October 16, 1993 RADIO ADDRESS BY THE PRESIDENT TO THE NATION The Oval Office 10:06 A.M. EDT THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. I want to talk with you today about our prosperity and our strength now and in the years to come. From the beginning of our administration I promised bold action with a plan for economic growth. We moved to put our fiscal house in order, to bring the deficit down, to spur business investment and start investing in our own people again. Our plan passed the Congress, and now good things are beginning to happen. We still have a long way to go, but there's clearly been real progress. Long-term interest rates are at historic lows. That means more businesses investing in jobs and economic growth. Home mortgages are at a 25-year low. That's put more money in the pockets of millions of Americans who are now buying or refinancing their homes. During the first eight months of this administration our American economy has created 1.1 million private sector jobs, more than had been generated in the previous four years. Our people have been waiting for a long time for a strong recovery. We've made progress, but we know there are other things we've got to do if we're going to put America at full strength for the long term. For one thing, we've got to have someone to buy our products and our services. To do that, we've got to look beyond our borders, to jolt our export markets so they will grow and create jobs here at home. All wealthy nations are finding today that they can't create jobs without expanding trade. It's not just the United States, the same thing is true in Germany and the rest of Europe and in Japan. I know we can do it, because, just as with the rest of the progress we've made so far, we've got a plan to increase exports. Already we've lowered Cold War trade barriers -- $37 billion worth of high-tech equipment which we can now sell in the export markets. We're working with Japan and with the entire international trading system to open up new markets for our manufactured products. And we've got a very important part of that plan right here in our area, called the North American Free Trade Agreement. Perhaps you've heard it called NAFTA. The bottom line is this: NAFTA will help create export relationships that will produce jobs -- 200,000 of them by 1995 --and will continue to create jobs in the future. It will help our economy to grow. Everywhere on Earth, more exports mean more jobs. And these jobs on average pay better -- 17 percent better than jobs that don't have anything to do with exports. Critics may say what they will, but they can't dispute the facts. We are competing in an era of almost unimaginable economic change; where investment and information can cross the globe in the flicker of a computer screen. It's a new world. But on the trade front, America has to often been playing by old rules. Our chief rivals in the global marketplace have been adapting. Europe has been developing its own trading block. Japan has cornered much of Asia. And now with NAFTA, we can adapt by using our friends and neighbors, first in Canada and Mexico, and eventually in the rest of Latin America. With NAFTA, our products will have easier access to Canada and the second fastest growing market in the entire world: Latin America. Without NAFTA, one of our best markets, Mexico, could turn to Japan and Europe to make a sweetheart deal for trade. With NAFTA, we'll be creating the biggest trading block in the world right at our doorstep and led by the United States. Without NAFTA, Mexico could well become an export platform allowing more products from Japan and Europe into America. Why would we want that to happen? It's no accident that NAFTA is supported by every living former president, almost every serving governor, and leaders of both parties. And yet, I know many Americans are worried about the agreement. They've been told that companies will head south once the ink is dry because wages are lower and environmental investments are cheaper in Mexico. But all the wishing in the world won't stop those companies from leaving today. Today companies can go to Mexico and produce for the American market with low tariffs if they want to. But NAFTA will require Mexico to enforce it's own environmental laws and labor standards, to raise the cost of production in Mexico by raising wages and raising environmental investments. That will make it less likely, not more likely, that a company will cross the Rio Grande River to take advantage of lower wages or lax pollution laws. I say again, under NAFTA more jobs will stay at home here in America, and more Americans exports will head to Mexico. NAFTA means exports and exports mean jobs. I believe with all my heart the fear stirred up over NAFTA flow from the pounding the middle class took over the past decade and a half, not from NAFTA itself. But I have to tell you, as your President, I could not be for this trade agreement unless I believed strongly that we needed to ensure the economic security of our hard-working middle class families. That's why I'm fighting in Congress to pass NAFTA when it votes on it next month. I hope you'll tell your representatives that you want it to pass, too. If you want to create more American jobs, if you want to lower the differences in cost of production in America and Mexico, if you want to take down barriers in Mexico to exports, then you should want NAFTA. And let me say again, America right now has a trade surplus with Mexico. Mexicans, even though their incomes are lower than Americans, are the second largest purchaser of American products per person -- second only to Canada. This means greater opportunities for our people and more jobs. I hope that you will support it. Before I close, I want to say a word about our brave helicopter pilot who was held and then released in Somalia. Tonight Michael Durant is on his way home. We are thankful beyond words that Chief Warrant Officer Durant will be reunited with his family and that he will recover from his wounds. At the same time, our hearts and the hearts of all Americans go out to the 18 families who are grieving tonight for their loved ones who were lost in Somalia, and to nearly 100 others who were wounded. They and their comrades are in our prayers. God bless you all. And thanks for listening. END10:11 A.M. EDT From!!!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail Wed Oct 20 18:29:53 1993 Path:!!!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail From: Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (The White House) Newsgroups:, Subject: CLINTON: NAFTA Notes 1993-10-18 Date: 18 Oct 1993 18:12:24 -0400 Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab Lines: 73 Sender: Message-ID: <> NNTP-Posting-Host: Xref: The White House NAFTA NOTES Monday, October 18, 1993 _________________________________________________________________ President Argues for NAFTA in Radio Address * In his weekly Saturday radio address, President Clinton took his case in support of NAFTA directly to the American people, telling them that the pact will create new American jobs, and help keep existing jobs in the U.S. "[U]nder NAFTA more jobs will stay at home here in America, and more American exports will head to Mexico," the President told the nation. "NAFTA means exports and exports mean jobs." * "With NAFTA," the President argued, "our products will have easier access to Canada and the second fastest growing market in the entire world: Latin America. Without NAFTA, one of our best markets, Mexico, could turn to Japan and Europe to make a sweetheart deal for trade. With NAFTA, we'll be creating the biggest trading block in the world right at our doorstep and led by the United States. Without NAFTA, Mexico could well become an export platform allowing more products from Japan and Europe into America." * The President reiterated that NAFTA is supported by every living former President, most of the nation's governors, and leaders in both parties, "[a]nd yet, I know many Americans are worried about the agreement," the President said. The President addressed many of American's fears about NAFTA and concluded: "I believe with all my heart the fears stirred up over NAFTA flow from the pounding the middle class took over the past decade and a half, not from NAFTA itself. But I have to tell you, as your President, I could not be for this trade agreement unless I believed strongly that we needed it to ensure the economic security of our hard-working middle class families." NAFTA Jobs and Products Day * This Wednesday morning, the President will join members of Congress on the South Lawn of the White House to review many of American-made products which make up America's $5.6 billion trade surplus with Mexico. Hundreds of products from nearly 200 companies will be displayed by the workers who produce them. USTR Kantor, Mayor of San Diego Advocate NAFTA on Brinkley Show * Discussing NAFTA on ABC's This Week with David Brinkley, USTR Mickey Kantor and San Diego Mayor Susan Golding promoted the agreement's job-creating benefits, especially for the U.S. automobile industry. Responding to Flint Mayor Woodrow Stanley who stated "I just don't think the case has been made" for NAFTA, Golding said: "The president of Chrysler has said very clearly that if NAFTA had existed, he would not have had to produce his new car, Neon, in Mexico. The reason he is in Mexico is because he cannot sell to Mexico unless he produces in Mexico. When NAFTA passes, he can produce in the United States and sell to Mexico." # # # From!!!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail Wed Oct 20 18:36:02 1993 Path:!!!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail From: Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (The White House) Newsgroups:, Subject: CLINTON: Press Briefing by Dee Dee Myers 1993-10-18 Date: 18 Oct 1993 18:35:19 -0400 Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab Lines: 723 Sender: Message-ID: <> NNTP-Posting-Host: Xref: THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary _____________________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release October 18, 1993 PRESS BRIEFING BY DEE DEE MYERS The Briefing Room 2:40 P.M. EDT MS. MYERS: It's a quiet day. Q The print pool is getting ready to organize itself, too. Q They already did. MS. MYERS: We may take this up again. As of right now, the radio interview -- the audio will be piped back here. We'll release a White House photo. I think we'll have one more conversation on it, but as of right now, there will be no pool camera and no pool in there, although, again, the audio will be piped back here. And I do expect the President to have some fairly newsworthy things to say. Let me begin by reading a statement. The President remains greatly concerned by the persistent refusal of the Haitian military authorities to fulfill their commitments under the Governors Island agreement and at the repression which they continue to carry out against the Haitian people. The President stated on October 15 that there are important American interests at stake in Haiti. We must protect American lives. We must avoid a massive exodus of Haitians fleeing political persecution at great risk to themselves and at great potential cost and disruption to the United States and other nations. We want to help restore democracy in Haiti, and thereby, promote democracy throughout the hemisphere. Therefore, the United States is taking several measures which will go into effect at 11:59 p.m. Eastern Standard Time tonight -- or Eastern Daylight Time -- tonight, to ensure strict implementation of U.N. oil and arms embargo against Haiti. These measures will also sanction those individuals who are defying U.N. measures, acting to disrupt the Governors Island Accord, and preventing restoration of democracy and the return of President Aristide. The President is today signing an executive order that will freeze the assets under U.N. jurisdiction of individuals who have obstructed the Governors Island agreement or the activities of the U.N. mission in Haiti, and who are perpetrating or contributing to the violence. It will also cover individuals who are financing or providing material support to those taking such actions. These groups include senior military and police officers and the civilian attaches and their financial patrons. Furthermore, we will deny visas and prohibit entry into the United States of such individuals. The United States has deployed six Navy vessels to help enforce the U.N. embargo. Argentina, Canada and France will also contribute ships, and other countries are actively considering participation. The military and police authorities must understand that they have no future in continuing their brutal resistance to the return of democracy and President Aristide. The United States is determined to work with the U.N., the OAS and others to oppose this repression of the democratic will of the Haitian people. Q What's the estimate of the assets that are being frozen? MS. MYERS: We have Rick Newcomb here who can answer some of the technical questions as soon as this is over on the specific sanctions. Q The President and the U.N. Ambassador ruled out -- refused to rule in or out anything, including an invasion. What is the President's position on whether he would use military force? Is this blockade and are these actions a precursor to a U.S. invasion? MS. MYERS: Well, first of all, what we're doing is enforcing the sanctions that were approved by the U.N., and now additional sanctions by the U.S. and the OAS. The President has not ruled in or out any activities. What we've done -- I think let's talk about what we've done here. The U.N. has approved a variety of sanctions. The U.S. has taken an additional step and approved additional sanctions, and that's where we are at this point. Q Why is he not ruling out military action, such as an invasion? MS. MYERS: Because I think at this point we'll keep -- the President just is focusing on the activities that were taken, the actions that he's taking, and we'll see where things go. I think the fundamental point here is the President is committed to the restoration of democracy. The United States is committed to that purpose, and we'll continue to press those in Haiti to comply with the Governors Island Accord, take additional action to restore democracy. Q Has there been any reaction at all from the Cedras military or the police officials, any movement at all on their part that would indicate some sort of a compromise or conciliation? Has anything been done over the weekend that would -- MS. MYERS: No, they have not taken appropriate action. They have not abided by the terms of the Governors Island Accord. They've not created a permissive environment for the -- Q How about the bid for mediation? MS. MYERS: There has not been adequate progress at this point to prohibit the implementation of the U.N. sanctions, which we expect will go into effect tonight. Q Is it Aristide or nothing? MS. MYERS: As you know, President Aristide is the duly- elected leader of Haiti. He was elected by almost two-thirds of Haitians. We remain committed to his restoration and the restoration of democracy. Q So you would not negotiate with Cedras or Francois or any of their representatives? MS. MYERS: At this point, President Aristide is the duly-elected leader of that country, and we want to see him implemented. Q Any word on the Americans whose safety the President was concerned about the other day? Any indication of further or perhaps lesser danger to them? MS. MYERS: No. The State Department travel advisory remains in effect. Q Is it still the policy of the administration, as was stated here last week, that Aristide could not govern effectively if he came back into power on the backs of U.S. Marines? MS. MYERS: I think we've maintained all along that it has to be a process that has created and worked with by the Haitians. That is why we created the Governors Island, or worked with the Haitians and the OAS and the U.N. to implement the Governors Island Accord, which was something that the leaders of Haiti, President Aristide and the authorities there now agreed to. Q That pretty well rules out any kind of an invasion to do this, doesn't it? MS. MYERS: I think it emphasizes that we're committed to restoring democracy to Haiti. We feel that that's the best method to do it. That's why we've worked through this process, and the President has been working very diligently at it for the last eight months. Q Is there any further contact with Dole on the part of the President? MS. MYERS: The President did speak to Senator Dole this afternoon. Q Are you sure you don't want the cameras on? MS. MYERS: The President will have more to say about this later, but let me just say -- Q That's not on television. MS. MYERS: But you're not going to need it. You won't need me. The President spoke to Senator Dole this afternoon. He is in the process of drafting a letter to Senator Mitchell which will discuss some of the proposed amendments to the defense appropriations bill. And I think the President will have a little bit more to say about that at 3:15 p.m. Q These are in connection with the Dole amendment? The letter deals with the Dole amendment? MS. MYERS: It deals with a number -- there are actually three amendments that it deals with, all of which the President has trouble with. Q What are the three in addition to Nickles and Dole? What's the third -- MS. MYERS: Two Dole. Q The Bosnia Dole and the Nickles? MS. MYERS: Correct. So command and control, Bosnia and Haiti. Q If the first thing the President mentioned in terms of U.S. interest in Haiti is the presence of Americans there, given the situation, why is he not ordering their departure or evacuation? MS. MYERS: Well, again, the State Department has issued a travel advisory at this point. MS. MYERS: But people who live there are not being asked to leave. MS. MYERS: No, but the State Department has issued a travel advisory; we think that's consistent with what we think the situation requires. Q When the President lists those American interests in Haiti and he puts the presence of U.S. citizens first, is that in order of importance or is that just sort of alphabetical? MS. MYERS: No, I think they're all important. Clearly, the safety of American citizens and dual citizens in Haiti is very important to the President. It's something that we'll be watching very carefully and if the situation changes we'll take that into account. Q Just to follow up on what Andrea asked before, when there was discussion about use of American military power in Bosnia, one thing that the President categorically ruled out was the use of U.S. ground troops there. What is the difference between that situation, where he was willing to rule it, out and this one, where apparently you're not? MS. MYERS: Well, I think one example would be the safety of American citizens in Haiti should that become an issue. But again, I think what the President is focused on is the actions that we're taking now, which are enforcing the U.N. sanctions, adding additional sanctions which he's signing today, and taking what he thinks are the appropriate actions at this point to put pressure on the authorities in Haiti to resume the process of democratic restoration. Q Can we have copies of the letter to Mitchell? MS. MYERS: Yes, as soon as it's ready we'll release it. It's still being finalized. Q When Dole said yesterday that it wasn't worth a single American life to restore Aristide to power, what is the White House view on that? MS. MYERS: We remain committed to the restoration of democracy in Haiti. And beyond that, I'm not in a position to comment. Q Does the President feel he has enough Marines inside the U.S. Embassy compound with the small detachment he sent? MS. MYERS: I think for the time being, that was gauged to be an appropriate level of additional security. If circumstances change we'll take that into account. Q Are there plans underway to beef up the Marine contingent at Guantanamo in case an evacuation is necessary? MS. MYERS: I'd have to take that question. I don't know -- or check with DOD. I don't know about the specific plans there. Q There are concerns expressed about whether everything that's blocked out by sea will manage to come in by land from the Dominican Republic. Have there been discussions with Dominican authorities? What's our feeling about how solid the -- MS. MYERS: I think that we felt last time that Dominican participation was very good, that they worked to help comply with and enforce the sanctions. And we expect the same -- Q Has there been any communication with them, though? That seems like a reasonable question. MS. MYERS: I'll have to take it. I would imagine on some level they've been communicated with. But I can find out specifically. Q And can you also, in the course of answering that question, determine if you can what level of cooperation has been promised? MS. MYERS: Sure. Q Have dependents of U.S. Embassy personnel at Port au Prince been withdrawn? MS. MYERS: I don't know the answer to that. You'll have to check with the State Department. I can take it and find out from them. Q Nonessential personnel? MS. MYERS: Yes, I don't know. Q Wouldn't that be prudent if they haven't been withdrawn, given the situation, to start evacuating those nonessential people? MS. MYERS: I'm happy to take the question. I just don't know what their status is. It could be, I just don't know whether they're there or not. Frank. The new father of that newborn baby. Congratulations. Q Thank you. Q Who's helping the President to draft this letter? Q The President spoke about breast cancer this morning, and an increased awareness. But he didn't address the concerns of many of the people who are in the coalition and elsewhere that that emphasis could be shown better by including mammograms before age 50 in the health care plan, or in making more frequent examinations after age 50. Could you just tell us why that wasn't -- MS. MYERS: I think we're reviewing some aspects of the health care plan, and when the legislation is completed, which we expect to be soon, we will address that specifically. I think you can expect to see some changes in that. Q You mean that they may lower it to under 50? MS. MYERS: There may be some changes in that aspect, yes. I'm not sure where it's going to end up. Q Dee Dee, changes in addition to the addition of people at high risk, below age 50? MS. MYERS: I think there are still some discussions about it. Again, I don't know how much I'll be able to say about it later. If I can add anything to it, if there's anything that's final, we'll post it. Q Do you expect that the ultimate plan will basically comply with the recommended Cancer Society guidelines -- MS. MYERS: I'll have to see, depending on how the final decisions come out on these issues. Q Is the administration now considering any change in its policy in Bosnia, and is there any chance that you might go around to the allies again and see if there's any more interest in doing bombing there than there was in the past? MS. MYERS: No, there's been no change in the current U.S.-NATO policy, which is that were Sarajevo to be strangled or the delivery of humanitarian aid be disrupted, that could result in air strikes. That policy still stands. Q There seemed to be some comments from the State Department earlier today that the U.S. might believe that a strangulation was in progress right now. MS. MYERS: That is something that we're obviously going to be looking at, and we'll see how the Bosnian Serbs behave over the next several days. We've always said that we will look at their actions on the ground. That will be the determinant factor. We're certainly looking at it, but there's been no change in U.S. policy in that regard. Q And have there been any current consultations with allies saying -- MS. MYERS: Well, NAC, the NATO policy arm, political arm, meets regularly. They're meeting today in Brussels. I'm sure it will come up. But there's been no final decision, no new decisions on that. Q Did the President meet with his advisors today? I mean, is everything coordinated with the Navy, and is this letter being drafted with the help of Christopher? Is it a major policy decision in terms of foreign policy? MS. MYERS: It is certainly a policy decision. The President has had a number of conversations with his advisors on this today, on the various amendments and some of the other aspects of Haiti, and I expect some of those conversations to be ongoing. Again, he did speak to Senator Dole, and he'll have a little more to say about that at 3:15 p.m. Q Can Mr. Newcomb share with us the specifics on the sanctions? MS. MYERS: Sure. Are there any more questions? And let's just let Rick come up and -- Q Is the administration going to go to the Supreme Court in the Meinhold case? MS. MYERS: I'll have to take that one. I'm not sure where we are on it. Q On health care reform, are you now not expecting to send legislation until next week? MS. MYERS: I think that's a safe assumption. Q And, also, on the story over the weekend about the Congressional Budget Office considering scoring the premiums in your plan as the tax, what is your response to that? MS. MYERS: We don't believe that they are attacks, but we're still working on that issue. Q Did the President ask Senator Dole to hold off on any action until he got this letter up there until tomorrow, because Senator Dole is now seen not to be doing anything today. MS. MYERS: I don't know what the conversation was in terms of timing, it's the content that the President's concerned about, and I think he addresses that fairly specifically. I don't know whether Senator Dole has released the specific language of his amendment, whether that's been finalized. But, certainly, the direction it was going in is very troubling to the President, and something he will again address both in the letter and in his comments. Q Are there negotiations between the White House and Dole's staff? MS. MYERS: The President basically is opposed to all three amendments, and is going to come out and say so in no uncertain terms. Q You're not willing to negotiate changes, loopholes? MS. MYERS: I suppose if Senator Dole were willing to make -- we've certainly had a number of conversations with him about this and other issues, and certainly we've had a number of issues where we've worked very closely with him. At this point, the President is concerned about the infringement on his ability to operate as Commander In Chief, and that is his primary concern, both on a constitutional level and on a policy level. And again, he'll have a little more to say about those things. Let me bring Rick up now before we run out of time. Q Anything on travel? MS. MYERS: Anything on travel? No. No travel for the rest of the week. Q Including the weekend? MS. MYERS: Yes, including the weekend. He's here on Saturday, has a few events on Saturday, but will be off on Sunday but in Washington at this point. I don't expect that to change. Q Was there a reason why the travel pool this morning wasn't permitted to get out of the van and shoot? Can you take that question? MS. MYERS: Sure. Let me just quickly run down the rest of the week. Tomorrow, he has a NAFTA meeting with Congress and then there will be a climate change event in the Rose Garden. Q Weather permitting? MS. MYERS: Weather permitting, there will be a climate change event. Wednesday is the NAFTA products event where people who produce products that have -- and sell them to Mexico who have done very well, as tariffs have been reduced, will bring their wares to the South Lawn of the White House. Bring your credit cards because you might be able to buy some great stuff. Thursday is a small business health care event at the Grand Hyatt, which is open; and then DNC fundraiser at the National Museum of Women in the evening. Q Open? MS. MYERS: It will be open, either pool or totally open. I must say we've had some requests for pool only. Q How much does it cost to come? MS. MYERS: I don't know. Call Kiki. And then Friday is a NAFTA meeting with Congress -- another NAFTA meeting -- and a Cabinet meeting. Saturday he'll give the radio address. He will attend the reinstallation of the Statue of Freedom at the Capital, the B'nai B'rith anniversary celebration at the Jefferson Memorial, and then the National Italian American Foundation Dinner at the Washington Hilton. Q Touching all bases. MS. MYERS: Leaving nobody out. Q No leadership meeting tomorrow? MS. MYERS: Not as of right now. That could change. Q A domestic question. The misdemeanor verdicts in the Reginald Denny trial today -- has the President, given the very light, the misdemeanor verdicts, given any thought to federal civil rights charges against these men? MS. MYERS: I think they're still polling the jury and doing other things in that, and I think we're watching to see where that goes today. I don't have anything on it yet. Q Is it conceivable that the administration would consider if these men get off with misdemeanors -- MS. MYERS: I'm not going to speculate. Rick. MR. NEWCOMB: My name is Rick Newcomb, Director of Foreign Assets Control, U.S. Treasury. You had a question. Q The question was, do you have any estimate of how much is covered by this freeze? MR. NEWCOMB: No, not yet. And the reason is we're still compiling the names. When we have the names compiled -- Q Where are they coming from, these names? MR. NEWCOMB: We're working with the State Department and other sources that are available to identify individuals that qualify under the new executive order. Q Do you have any estimate about the number of people you're looking at? I mean are we talking about a dozen people or a hundred or whatever? And also -- I understand you're still working on it -- also some sense of the magnitude of assets potentially at issue? MR. NEWCOMB: I can't -- it wouldn't be fair for me to give you an estimate of the magnitude. We're reviewing these names on an ongoing basis. We put the names out through the financial system to the Federal Reserve system to the banks. The banks then check their accounts to ensure that if there are accounts there, they're blocked and to assure that if there are any dollar clearing activities that they be stopped en route. This is an ongoing process. We will continue to work with all sources to continue to compile the names of individuals that meet this definition. Q And understanding that that's in flux, you're sending some number of names through the system this evening? MR. NEWCOMB: Yes. Q How many? MR. NEWCOMB: I would say it's in the magnitude of 40 to 50. Q Forty to 50? MR. NEWCOMB: Yes. Now, let me say before we move forward and actually name those names or designate those names, we have to be assured in our own right that these names qualify so that we're just not naming names. We have to have some basis in fact to do so. Q How long have you been working on this? MR. NEWCOMB: Since the President announced the fact that we were moving forward, on October 13th, I believe. Since U.N. Resolution 873. Q Between the time of that and now, would that have allowed these people to pull their assets out of various institutions or not? MR. NEWCOMB: Well, let me say, the fact that we might block individual assets is something that has been discussed throughout this program. And when we finally did move to block assets in June of this year, individual assets, there were considerable numbers that were blocked, in the millions. So, yes, there are considerable financial contacts with the United States. This is meaningful and we anticipate blocking significant amounts. Q Do you have promises from any other countries that they will also freeze their assets -- Switzerland, Hong Kong -- MR. NEWCOMB: Consultations in this regard continue, but I really can't comment on that. Q because those people having assets in Europe and elsewhere, too. Which other countries are joining you -- MR. NEWCOMB: The U.N. resolution of last June required the freezing of assets of the de facto regime. This goes one step further in the United Nations resolution by defining a broader standard. And it's in that broader standard that we're able to capture these individuals that have obstructed the U.N. resolutions, contributed to violence, and so forth. Q Are the Europeans with you in your vote? MR. NEWCOMB: The Europeans are consulting with the State Department on this constantly. We consult with other financial regulators and foreign countries routinely. This is among the issues that we consult on. Q A follow-up on Brit's question. Why would anybody -- sort of intelligent person who might be subject to this kind of order have allowed their assets to remain in this country given what the President said a few days ago? MR. NEWCOMB: Well, in all instances -- well, first, let me say these have been announced in the past and they have been blocked. This can include foreign branches of U.S. banks, as in the foreign branches in Haiti. It can include tangible assets. It's all property and interests of property. It can be illiquid and they can't be in a position to transfer them easily. Q Can you tell us whether last June when assets were blocked, whether General Cedras or Mr. Francois had assets that were blocked at that time, since clearly they meet the standard that's been enunciated? MR. NEWCOMB: I don't know that question. I can certainly get it for you. I'll be available after this to tell you that. I don't know the names of everybody. Q I want to make sure I understand. We have the same sanctions that were on in June that were lifted August 27th, is that right? MR. NEWCOMB: That's correct. Q They were lifted August 27th, so the property was all unblocked until this time, correct? MR. NEWCOMB: That's right. Q So they had a period from August 27th until now to come back and do whatever they want with their property? MR. NEWCOMB: That's correct. Let me mention two things. First, we have restored the status quo ante by reinstituting the embargo that was in place and then lifted. So, in essence, we've returned things to where they were in August. In addition to that, the new executive order takes the standards for freezing of assets two steps further by including the obstruction of the implementation of the U.N. resolutions, the Governors Island Accord and the activities of the U.N. mission and has the standard of perpetuating or contributing to the violence. So what this does that's different is that it substantially expands that basket of individuals that can be covered. So in answer to your question, yes, they were lifted entirely. They are now reimposed. The names may change, because as the Malval government has come back, some of the names that were working for the de facto regime are now within the ambit of the recognized government. Q Do you know of anyone in the top hierarchy who has pulled their assets out in this interval, between the end of the sanctions and the -- MR. NEWCOMB: That isn't something that I would have the capability of knowing immediately. I think this order is not in place yet. As the weeks come and we're able to analyze who had assets subject to U.S. jurisdiction, and if they've pulled them out, we'll have an answer to that question. Let me reiterate -- it also applies to foreign branches of U.S. banks. So the two banks, U.S. banks in Haiti, would also be covered here. Q Do you know when this process will be completed, and you will have a total figure? MR. NEWCOMB: Numbers will start coming in within the week, perhaps in the next week or so. It's a very dynamic ongoing process. We don't know even now the total number of names that will be covered. My people are working with others to define the universe of individuals that fit into these categories. When we have that, then we'll be able to fill out the picture more fully. Q What are the two banks? MR. NEWCOMB: Bank of Boston and Citibank. Q How many were affected in June by the freeze? MR. NEWCOMB: Again, if you'd check with me later for an exact number. I would say it's close to about a dozen. Q How quickly do you think the oil embargo is going to have an effect on what's left of the Haitian economy? MR. NEWCOMB: The oil embargo is a very significant activity. In 1991 it was very significant. It was having its effect until that shipment went into Haiti on Thanksgiving Day of '91. I anticipate it's very likely that there may have been stockpiling. However, the fact that this is in place should have immediate psychological effects, so they're drawing down on stockpiles now. END 3:15 P.M. EDT #122-10/18 From!!!!!uunet!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail Wed Oct 20 18:36:37 1993 Path:!!!!!uunet!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail From: Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (The White House) Newsgroups:, Subject: CLINTON: NAFTA Notes 1993-10-19 Date: 19 Oct 1993 17:52:04 -0400 Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab Lines: 69 Sender: Message-ID: <> NNTP-Posting-Host: Xref: The White House NAFTA NOTES Tuesday, October 19, 1993 _________________________________________________________________ White House Gears Up for NAFTA Jobs and Products Day * The White House is continuing to gear up for NAFTA Jobs and Products Day tomorrow. The President will be joined in reviewing American exports to Mexico by members of Congress, members of the Cabinet, Lee Iacocca and over one thousand workers and representatives of exporting companies. Products will begin to arrive today, and will be displayed by the workers who produce them in two tents on the South Lawn. The message of this event is clear -- U.S. exports create U.S. jobs and NAFTA will boost more than 700,000 U.S. jobs dependant on trade with Mexico. Rep. Bereuter Endorses NAFTA * In a floor statement last Friday, Representative Doug Bereuter (R-NE) endorsed NAFTA, announcing that he will vote in favor of its passage. Rep. Bereuter stated that "the approval of NAFTA is in the overall best interest of the United States --both in the short-term and long-term; for Nebraska the case is even more overwhelmingly positive." * Bereuter told his House colleagues that "the low-wage incentive to move jobs out of the United States already exists; therefore, approval of NAFTA would actually reduce this job- relocation incentive rather than increase it -- by eliminating Mexico's substantial barriers to U.S. manufactured products." Bereuter also pointed out that NAFTA would eliminate Mexican laws requiring U.S. producers to build in Mexico to sell in Mexico. "Thus, it would no longer be necessary for U.S. auto makers and auto parts manufacturers to locate facilities in Mexico to tap Mexican markets; these products could be made in the U.S. by American workers and exported to Mexico." Microsoft's Gates Calls NAFTA "Key" to Ending Software Piracy * In an op-ed article in yesterday's Washington Post, Microsoft CEO Bill Gates endorsed NAFTA, calling it "key" to ending software piracy which costs American software manufacturers millions each year. "Software piracy costs the U.S. industry a staggering $10 billion a year in lost revenue from foregone foreign sales," Gates wrote. "These increased sales would generate more jobs at home". * Gates wrote that Microsoft's sales "grew more than 100 percent in 1992 and nearly 200 percent in 1993 while U.S.-based employment in support of Microsoft's Latin American operations increased more than 300 percent." Gates argued that the precedent set in NAFTA for intellectual protection could be extended to the rest of South America as those countries seek to link themselves to the agreement. "In short," Gates concluded, "approval of NAFTA is vitally important to the software industry -- and the country. ...It is an opportunity we should not miss." # # # From!!!!!uunet!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail Wed Oct 20 18:36:48 1993 Path:!!!!!uunet!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail From: Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (The White House) Newsgroups:, Subject: CLINTON: President's Remarks at NAFTA Product Day 1993-10-20 Date: 20 Oct 1993 13:11:40 -0400 Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab Lines: 345 Sender: Message-ID: <> NNTP-Posting-Host: Xref: THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary ______________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release October 20, 1993 REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT AT NAFTA PRODUCTS EVENT The South Grounds 10.31 A.M. EDT THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. I want to thank Harold and Bob and, of course, Lee Iacocca, who has been such an eloquent spokesperson for NAFTA. It's nice to see him on television in an ad where he's -- I enjoy watching him sell Chryslers, but I like seeing him sell NAFTA even more in the television ads. (Laughter.) I want to thank the many members of the United States Congress who are here today. They hold the fate of this trade agreement and, in many ways, the fate of America's trade future in their hands. I want to thank the members of the Cabinet here today -- the Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen; our United States Trade Ambassador Mickey Kantor, who negotiated the agreements on the environment, on labor standards, and some other things which make this a truly unique trade agreement in the history of world trade; the Labor Secretary; the Education Secretary; the Commerce Secretary. Bob Reich, Dick Riley, and Ron Brown -- I've seen all of them. There may be other members of the Cabinet here today showing our unified support for this agreement. I also want to thank all the companies and the workers who came here today. They really showed what this trade agreement is all about. It's about the jobs of American workers and the future of American working families. People who are determined to compete and win. Today, the demonstrations in these two tents should show our country and show our Congress why we need NAFTA. In the next month before the vote we've got to vigorously make this case to the American people. I was talking with Bob and the other steel workers over at their exhibit over here, and I said, You know, we figure that an enormous number of America's unions will actually pick up jobs if this agreement passes." The NAFTA fight is an interesting one to me. Lee Iacocca has already said it pretty well, but I have to restate it for you in personal terms. Before I became President, I was a Governor of my state for a dozen years -- during the 1980s. When I took office in 1983, our unemployment rate was three percentage points above the national average. I know all about losing jobs to trade, to not being able to compete. A lot of companies here have plants in my state, and I believe that everyone I saw here, I have personally been in the plant. I saw companies shut down and move to Mexico in the 1980s. And when it happened, because I live in a small state, I knew who they were. I'm proud to say we brought one of them back, too, before I left office. I would not ever do anything knowingly that would cost jobs to the American economy and take opportunities from American working people. This won't do that; it will do the reverse. The people who are fighting this are bringing to this fight the resentments that they have over what happened in the 1980s. You heard me talk about it -- how many decent people lost their jobs; how many times did we see people shut down and move to other countries solely because of lower labor costs or higher other production costs in America. That's what happened before. But in the last 12 or 13 years we have seen productivity growth in the production sector in the United States go up at four percent or more a year. You heard Lee say that you can now produce an automobile from anywhere in this part of the world cheaper in the United States than anyplace else. We had two European companies put plants in North America -- they could have gone to Mexico. Where did they go? One went to South Carolina, one is now going to Alabama. Why? Because it's cheaper. Because the labor is highly productive, even though more expensive, and that is a relatively small part of a big, complex operation -- making an automobile and putting it into a showroom. And I tell you, friends, if we can get folks in this country to focus on what this trade agreement does, it will alleviate the anxieties that so many people have in the 1980s. It raises the cost of production to Mexico by requiring greater investments in labor and in the environment. It lowers the trade barriers. On automobiles alone, the domestic content requirement will be lowered, and we'll be able to go from selling one to 50,000 American cars in one year alone. It will give us access to a Mexican market on preferential terms as compared with our Japanese and our European competitors, something that we have seen on the reverse side not only in Europe, but especially in Asia. And it will create good jobs. We'll not only get more jobs out of this, but the jobs we get related to exports pay on average about 17 percent more than non-export related jobs in this country. And look at the Mexicans. You know, frankly, I'm getting a little weary of hearing people criticize Mexico as not perfect. You think everybody else we trade with in the world is perfect? Look at the progress they have made. It's hard to show a country that's made a stronger commitment to open markets and a free enterprise system, coming from a long way back. In most of my lifetime, if you want to be a popular politician in Mexico, the way to be popular was to badmouth the United States, blame all of the problems of the people on the United States. The last two presidents of Mexico have started to turn that around. This President said we're going to compete in the global economy. And we're going to try to have open relationships. And we're going to start with the United States. And, unilaterally, they have lowered a lot of their tariffs, even though they're still 2.5 times as high as ours. And now we've got the trade surplus that Lee Iacocca talked about. We can do so much better if we adopt this agreement. And we give ourselves a chance to compete in a friendly way with a country that now likes the United States, wants to be tied to the United States, full of 80 million people who spend 70 percent of the money they spend on foreign products in the United States of America. It is a pretty good deal, and it's time we started to take it. (Applause.) I also want to talk about -- we believe that this agreement will create 200,000 new jobs by 1995 alone. Keep in mind, as has already been said, the Mexican economy today is only about 1/20 the size of the American economy. It's about the size of the economy of California from Los Angeles County to the Mexican border. And, already, these folks are accounting for a $6-billion trade surplus. Imagine what would happen to the American economy as the Mexican economy grows, as the people there have their incomes go up, as they have more money to spend, and as they have a special trade relationship with the United States. Imagine, those of you who are involved in manufacturing, all the other things that are going to happen if we have this special relationship. One of our American toy manufacturers has already announced that they will change their plant location from China to Mexico, and therefore will buy what is 85 percent of the value of the toy, the plastic parts from an American company instead of a Japanese company. (Applause.) There are absolutely unforeseeable consequences of this. Let me just tell you about a couple of the companies that we just saw. The Harris Corporation is the number one United States supplier of radio and TV broadcast equipment. Twenty-nine percent of its $3 billion in annual sales come from exports. And in the last couple of years, sales to Mexico have gone from $12 million to $40 million a year, despite 20-percent tariffs. Imagine what will happen when the tariffs drop -- more people will be hired. There's a small business from Covington, Kentucky, represented back here -- the Monarch Tool and Manufacturing Company, which began to export coin slots to Mexico over the last three years. The company was foundering in the mid-'80s. Now almost 70 percent of its sales come from exports. There's a company here from California, which I am a satisfied customer, Golden Bear Sportswear. During the 1980s, this company, which makes, among other things, leather bomber jackets, moved this factory from San Francisco to Korea. And after four years they moved back. The lady that runs the company wrote me one of the most moving letters I've ever received, saying that she was absolutely determined to keep jobs in America and in California, to work with the people who helped to build the company and buy its products. Now the business is flourishing and the owners are proud to put "Made In The USA" on the jackets. The family-owned business with 100 employees makes 100,000 jackets a year, most marketed through retailers like Brooks Brothers, the Gap, L.L. Bean, and Land's End. They have annual sales of $16 million. Instead of moving a plant to Korea, they'd like to move some of those jackets to Mexico. I think we ought to give them a chance to do it. That's what America is all about. (Applause.) The beacon of our country's technological genius, Hewlett Packard of Palo Alto, California, has computers which now face a 20-percent tariff in Mexico, which will drop to zero. Three years ago, Mexicans bought 120,00 personal computers. Last year they bought 390,000 personal computers. Imagine how many personal computers 80 million people could buy if there were not a 20 percent duty on those products. (Applause.) Let me just say two other things about this. One person that I talked to on the line, and I wish I could remember where he was, said, you know, Mr. President, as important as NAFTA is for Mexico and American trade, it may be actually more important for other things. It will say to the world whether we're a good trading partner. It will say to the world whether the United States government has a constant policy of supporting expanded trade and whether the President and the trade apparatus of the country can be trusted to make deals that America adheres to. Yes, you said that. (Laughter.) It will say to the world -- and I thank you for that. And I can tell you this, it will also say to the world and especially to the rest of latin America whether the United States wants to be a good neighbor again, whether we want to reestablish the kind of feeling that existed 30 years ago and 60 years ago. (Applause.) I tell you, my friends, democracy and the fever for a market economy is sweeping across Latin America. I dream of the day when we'll have over 700 million people in this trading bloc united in believing that we can help one another grow and flourish. But all the other countries of the world are looking at us and all the other countries of Latin America want to know, are we going to do this or not. Colombia, not a very big country, has a President struggling to liberate its country from the scourge of the dominance of drugs, struggling to develop a diversified free market economy. In the last two years, that little country's increased their purchases of American products by 69 and 64 percent on their own. The President of Colombia says, I want to be a part of NAFTA Chile, for so long a military dictatorship, now a democratic free market economy endorsing NAFTA. They don't benefit from it, they just want it to be a symbol of something they can be a part of. Look at Argentina, once the eighth wealthiest country in the entire world, finally on the way back again. We have opportunities we cannot dream of. I don't know how long it will take us to put all that back together if we turn away from this. The last thing I want to say is this: I have really tried to avoid talking about all the bad things that happen if it doesn't pass because I want us to be optimistic and upbeat. And I don't want us to adopt this out of fear. There's been too much fear- mongering on the other side, and all kinds of ridiculous statements made. But it is simply a fact that Mexico needs access to sophisticated goods and products, that Mexico needs access to investors who can make secure investments. What would we do in America if we turn away from this and they make this sort of arrangement with Japan or with Europe, and they make the investments there and then we have to deal with their products coming through the back door from Mexico? What will happen to our job base? I'm telling you, everything people worried about in the 1980s will get worse if this thing is voted down, and will get better if it's voted up. (Applause.) My friends in California worried about the large influx of illegal immigrants -- California, a state built by immigrants, but burdened by illegal immigration in volume too great for a state with a very high unemployment rate today to handle. And people are afraid there. What's going to happen if it passes or if it doesn't pass? If NAFTA passes, you won't have what you have now, which is everybody runs up to the Maquilladora line, gets a job in a factory and then runs across the line to get a better job. Instead there will be more uniform growth in investment across the country, and people will be able to work at home with their families. And over the period of the next few years, we will dramatically reduce pressures on illegal immigration from Mexico to the United States. But if you beat this, will it reduce the pressure for people looking for illegal immigration? No. It will increase the pressure on people coming here. So if you want to have the immigration problem eased, you must vote for NAFTA, not against it. We can go through issue after issue after issue and it's the same. So I say to you, again, what we started this with. I know this has been a tough time for most Americans. There's all this bewildering change in the world and it's making people's jobs less secure. And at the same time, we've got a lot of problems here at home with violence, with the availability and cost of health care, with all the other things that are bothering our people. But we are trying to address those in this administration. We're trying to give Americans better security in their family lives, in their education lives, with their health care and on their streets. But we cannot -- we cannot create security out of an unwillingness to change. This vote really is going to say a lot about what kind of people we expect to be. Are we going to hunker down and turn away and say, "My goodness, we're going to be overcome by a trade agreement with Mexico," or are we going to take this as the first step toward reaching out to the rest of the world saying, "Americans can compete and win again"? We've got all the evidence we need. We know that it's not just the United States, no wealthy country in the world today can create new jobs without expanding trade. It cannot be done. Nobody is doing it. Nobody is doing it. And if you look at Europe, the most protectionist countries have higher unemployment rates. The most open market in Europe, Germany, is the only country with an unemployment rate as low as ours. I'm telling you this is going to define what kind of people we're going to be and whether we want to really compete and win in the global economy. I think Americans are winners. And I think when it comes down to it, the Congress will vote for us to win. (Applause.) I want to say this one thing on behalf of the members of the Congress. They have to make this vote. I'm working with them to make sure that we can get the training we need for people who will be dislocated. We need to do that for people anyway, all across America. And we will have a strategy to help those areas of the country that are already in trouble that have nothing to do with this. But the Congress tells me over and over again, they hear from the people who are against NAFTA because they're afraid and they're whipped up. They don't hear from the people who are for it, who are going to win. So we brought you here today not only to send a message to them, but so that I could ask you and companies like you and employees like your employees all across America to call or write the members of the Congress in every state without regard to party to talk about this. They need to hear from people who will get jobs, who will have increased incomes, who will have increased opportunities. I agree with Mr. Iacocca. We have no one to blame but ourselves if this thing goes down. We've got the facts on our side, they've got the fear on their side. We need to get the facts to the Congress in the faces of the people who will win from this agreement. And we have to do that. (Applause.) Every time you have to face a big change in your life, you can make one of two decisions: You can hunker down and hope it'll go away, or you can sort of face it and make it turn out all right. You can make change your friend. If you hunker down and hope it goes away, that works about one time in 100. The other 99 percent of the time, you better figure out a way to make change your friend, because it's coming at you, anyway. The world economy is coming at us, anyway. We have already paid the price for our inadequacies. We are now competitive and we can win, and it is time we use NAFTA to prove it to ourselves, as well as to the rest of the world. Thank you, and God bless you all. (Applause.) END10:49 A.M. EDT From!!!!!uunet!!!swrinde!!!f_gautjw Thu Oct 21 15:01:21 1993 Path:!!!!!uunet!!!swrinde!!!f_gautjw From: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism Subject: Sessions Ouster Linked to Ron Brown Message-ID: <> Date: 21 Oct 93 12:58:08 CST Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University Lines: 185 Xref: alt.conspiracy:35231 alt.activism:53276 From THE SPOTLIGHT, October 18, 1993 SESSIONS OUSTER LINKED TO BROWN Reporters are delving into the firing by President Clinton last July of FBI Director William Sessions. By Mike Blair With Attorney General Janet Reno's refusal to appoint an an independent special prosecutor to investigate the burgeoning scandal involving Commerce Secretary Ron Brown's alleged deal to arrange the lifting of U.S. trade barriers against Vietnam, a number of reporters working on the story are delving into the firing by President Bill Clinton last July of FBI Director William Sessions. In fact, sources have told THE SPOTLIGHT that if congressional hearings are ultimately held to investigate allegations of wrongdoing by Brown, Sessions may be subpoenaed as a key witness in the case. Ly Tranh Binh, 37, is a South Florida Vietnamese-American businessman who initiated the current FBI probe against Brown and whose accusations led The SPOTLIGHT to publish the Browngate story in its July 5 edition as the first national coverage of the affair. Binh revealed to the Washington weekly that Sessions was personally in charge of the probe. CALLED ALL THE SHOTS According to Binh, agents working on the case out of the FBI's South Florida field office and those sent down from Washington to supplement their efforts got their orders directly from Sessions and did not make a move in the probe without first getting his approval or direction. From February through April, Binh worked closely with FBI agents in trying to develop evidence linking Brown to Hao. The agents wired a briefcase with a radio transmitter Binh could take to meetings with Hao and recorded telephone conversastions between Binh and Hao, along with other individuals connected to the case. All of this, Binh told The SPOTLIGHT, was directed by Sessions personally, with whom the agents were in constant contact. Binh also said the agents sometimes joked with him about how their boss was in trouble with the Justice Department over misuse of his official car and for the construction of a security fence around his Washington home. These charges, leveled against Sessions, in a report by President George Bush's last attorney general, William Barr, as one of his last acts before Barr left office, were ultimately used by Miss Reno for an excuse to dump Sessions. However, many who had followed the travails of Sessions indicated the charges were both petty and lacked sufficient substance to warrant his removal from office. FEW AWARE An interesting series of events occurred, involving the SPOTLIGHT'S coverage of the Browngate scandal, which lend credence to the belief that Sessions's investigation of Brown and his associates ultimately led to his downfall. This much is clear: Few at FBI headquarters in Washington were aware that Sessions was conducting the investigation, and many there were caught by surprise by The SPOTLIGHT'S Washington offices and were provided a copy of the edition. Upon reading it, they apparently discovered there were two previous editions that covered the Browngate scandal--the initial issue of July 5 and the following edition of July 19. The front-page lead story of the July 19 issue carried the headline, "Sessions said to direct probe." As a result, the agents returned to the SPOTLIGHT offices and picked up copies of the first two editions carrying the story, obviously discovering the part played by Sessions as reported in the July 19-dated issue. CALLED ON THE CARPET The following day, July 17, Sessions was called into the office of Attorney General Reno, who with Associate Attorney General Webster Hubbell present, advised the FBI director he had until the following Monday, July 19, to resign or be dismissed from his job by Clinton. Hubbell is considered to be the Clintons' direct link to the Justice Department. Telecasts of Sessions leaving the Justice Department meeting showed him ashen faced and shaken. In fact, in attempting to steady a reporter who had stumbled and was about to fall to the pavement, Sessions himself fell and fractured his arm. The injury required overnight hospitalization for the FBI chief. Sessions adamantly refused to quit, telling the press he was staying put as long as he could to maintain the independence of the FBI as an investigative agency and to prevent it from being politicized. On Monday, July 19, Sessions reported for work as usual and was called by Clinton, who advised him he was fired. A few minutes later the president called back and told the director his dismissal was "effective immediately." Later at a press conference, Sessions said that from that moment on until he left the J. Edgar Hoover FBI Headquarters Building, he was treated like "a visitor" to the building. In fact, Sessions was carefully watched by agents while he emptied personal belongings from his desk and was allowed to remove only one briefcase with his possessions, according to press reports. ESCORTED OUT He was escorted out of the building by the agents after a debriefing period. In April, while Sessions was still in office, Binh was surprised when the FBI investigation came to an abrupt halt, with an agent taking from him a special telephone beeper he had been provided to keep in constant contact with agents working on the case. When he inquired about the reasons for the sudden reversal of their interest in the case, he was told they had to take the beeper back "due to budgetary cutbacks" at the bureau. His contact with agents quickly became infrequent and ultimately non-existent after Sessions's removal. Binh told The SPOTLIGHT he believes the FBI had been told to halt the probe. He today refers to the FBI in two ways, the FBI under Sessions as "the old FBI' and the FBI after Sessions as "the new FBI," and he is highly skeptical of their efforts in investigating the Brown affair. As the story has erupted into the Establishment media, there have been reports that the Justice Department has given "the new FBI" the "green light" to proceed with the investigation of Brown. 'THE RIGHT WAY' In announcing that she was not going to appoint a special prosecutor in the case, Miss Reno told reporters "If I appoint the person or select the person, you're still going to question the conflict as long as I am involved in that process. Thus, what I've got to do is make sure that I do it the right way, and I'm going to try my level best." Just what is "the right way" is unclear, particularly since leaving the probe in the hands of the Clinton Justice Department is, according to her critics, "like leaving the foxes in charge of the chicken coop." The department is managed by some of her closest associates, and many Washington observers view the real power in the department to be Hubbell, a former law partner in Little Rock of first lady Hillary Clinton. He is frequently at the White House and has instant access to President Clinton. Even the Establishment New York Times, in reporting Miss Reno's refusal to appoint a special prosecutor, noted that her action was "somewhat surprising given her longstanding support for the principle of having disinterested, outside prosecutors investigate accusations against high-level administration officials." In addition to The SPOTLLIGHT at least two major news media sources are currently investigating links between Sessions's dismissal and the Brown scandal. ------End of Article----- ______________________________________________________________________ The SPOTLIGHT 300 Independence Ave., SE Washington, D.C. 20003 To Subscribe: Call toll-free (800) 522-6292. In Maryland: (301) 951-6292. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Joe Gaut From!!!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail Tue Oct 26 08:26:11 1993 Path:!!!!ai-lab!ai-lab!not-for-mail From: Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (The White House) Newsgroups:, Subject: CLINTON: President's Radio Address 1993-10-23 Date: 23 Oct 1993 17:08:00 -0400 Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab Lines: 163 Sender: Message-ID: <> NNTP-Posting-Host: Xref: THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary _____________________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release October 23, 1993 RADIO ADDRESS BY THE PRESIDENT TO THE NATION The Oval Office 10:06 A.M. EDT THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Last year I waged a campaign for President on a commitment to change our economic course in Washington -- to change economic policy and put the American people first. After a long struggle we are finally seeing signs of hope in our economy. We have moved to significantly lower our federal deficit, and now we have the lowest interest rates in 30 years. That's bringing back business investment, housing starts, purchases of expensive capital equipment. And now in the past eight months, our economy has created more jobs in the private sector than were created in the previous four years. We've still got a long way to go. We need more investment, more jobs that pay living wages, more opportunity for our students and workers to train and retrain themselves for a changing global economy. We'll never make America what it ought to be until we provide real health security for all our people -- health care that's always there, that can never be taken away, that controls costs and maintains quality and coverage. But we can't do any of those things until the American people really feel secure enough to make the changes we need to make. I see evidence of that uncertainty, that insecurity, as I struggle to expand trade opportunities for our people through passing the North American Free Trade Agreement; as I struggle to convince people we should open our markets to others and force other markets open so that we can sell more of our high-tech equipment around the world; as we try to get people to accept the fact that most folks will change jobs seven or eight times in a lifetime, and therefore we can't have job security, but we can have employment security if we have a real lifetime system of education and training. All these changes require a level of confidence in our institutions and in ourselves, a belief that America can still compete and win, and that the American Dream can still be alive. One of the problems in inspiring that confidence in America is that we've become the most dangerous big country in the world. We have a higher percentage of our people behind bars than any other nation in the world. We've had 90,000 murders in this country in the last four years. The American people increasingly feel that they're not secure in their homes, on their streets, or even in their schools. This explosion of crime and violence is changing the way our people live, making too many of us hesitant, often paralyzed with fear at a time when we need to be bold. When our children are dying, often at the hands of other children with guns, it's pretty tough to talk about anything else. Today, there are more than 200 million guns on our streets, and we have more federally licensed gun dealers who, believe it or not, can get a license from your federal government for only $10, than we have gas stations. It's prompted the corner grocer to shut down because he feels threatened. It's made the shopper afraid to enter a parking garage at night. It's made children think twice about going to school because classmates have been shot there. It's made parents order their children inside in broad daylight because of gunfire. Nothing we aspire to in our nation can finally be achieved unless first we do something about children who are no longer capable of distinguishing right from wrong; about people who are strangely unaffected by the violence they do to others; about the easy availability of handguns or assault weapons that are made solely for the purpose of killing or maiming others; about the mindless temptations of easy drugs. This issue should be above politics. That's why I'm working closely with the leaders of Congress in urging them to pass our comprehensive anti-crime legislation when it comes up in the Senate next week. The bill is based on a simple philosophy and a simple message: We need more police, fewer guns, and different alternatives for people who get in trouble. We ask Congress to honor the struggle of Jim and Sarah Brady by passing the Brady bill, a five-day waiting period for background checks before a person can purchase a handgun. We want to take assault weapons off the street. And we want to take all guns out of the hands of teenagers. We want more police officers on the street -- at least 50,000 more. And we want them working in community policing networks so that they'll know their neighbors and they'll work with people not simply to catch criminals, but to prevent crime in the first place. We want to put more power in the hands of local communities and give them options so that first time offenders can be sent to boot camps and to other programs that we know work to rehabilitate people who use drugs and to give our children a way out of a life of crime and jail. We also are recharting the way we fight the drug problem. Under the leadership of Dr. Lee Brown, our father of community policing in this country and now the Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, we are increasing our focus on the hard core user, those who make up the worst part of the drug problem, who fuel crime and violence, who are helping a whole new generation of children to grow up in chaos, who are driving up our health care costs because of the violence and the drug use. Our program will reach out to young people who can be saved from living a life of crime and being a burden on society, the ones who have taken a wrong turn but can still turn around. They'll have access to boot camps to learn skills and the kind of responsibility that they have to adopt if they want to turn their lives around. Every time we feel the need to view strangers with suspicion or to bar our homes and cars against intrusion or we worry about the well-being of the child we send off to grade school, we lose a little part of what America should mean. Some of these problems were decades in the making. And we know we can't solve them overnight, but within adversity there is some hope today. In our administration, with the Attorney General Janet Reno, our outstanding FBI Director Louis Freeh, and the Drug Policy Coordinator Lee Brown, we have a dedicated team of people used to fighting crime, determined to restore security for our people, determined to give our young people another chance. We are dedicated to restoring and expanding personal security for people who work hard and play by the rules. We're dedicated to insisting on more responsibility from those who should exercise it. We have a comprehensive crime bill that says we need more police, fewer guns, tougher laws, and new alternatives for first offenders. We're asking for a new direction in the control of illegal drugs to make our streets safer. We're asking all our people to take more personal responsibility for their health, their lives and the well-being of their children. I believe the American people have decided simply and finally they are sick and tired of living in fear. They are prepared to reach beyond the slogans and the easy answers to support what works, to experiment with new ideas, and to finally, finally do something about this crime and violence. If we do it together, we'll make America more prosperous and more secure. We'll have the courage, the self-confidence, the openness to make the other changes we need to make to put the American people first in the months and years to come. Thanks for listening. END10:12 A.M. EDT


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