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Dear Friends: Please help spread the following ideas (the outline ends at III.D.3.). ACTUALIZE WORLD PEACE. Thank you, Emily Nghiem. I. GOAL: To unify all religions into one trinitarian view of human nature that has practical application to modern society II. Trinitarian roots A. Buddhism: The Three Refuges 1. DHARMA = doctrine/truth 2. BUDDHA = perfect wisdom/rationality 3. SANGHA = community B. Christianity: The Holy Trinity 1. GOD = divine truth/faith/love 2. CHRIST = perfect conscience 3. HOLY SPIRIT = perfect communion/communication C. Muslim: The Three Authorities 1. KORAN = one truth/one God 2. SHARIAH = principles guiding all of man's acts 3. SUNNAH = deeds/teachings of Mohammed and his followers D. Confucianism: The Three Cardinal Virtues 1. JEN = supreme virtue/love 2. YI = highest principle embodied in man 3. LI = outward expression of moral sentiment/standard E. Unitarianism: (three goals listed consecutively in the creed) 1. Seeking of TRUTH 2. Right of CONSCIENCE 3. Service to the COMMUNITY F. Psychology: tri-partite model of human behavior 1. SUPEREGO = spiritual drive 2. EGO = emotional/mental drive 3. ID = physical drive G. U.S. Government: three branches (see negative trinity, next page) 1. JUDICIAL interprets laws (to judge people) 2. LEGISLATIVE creates laws (to control people) 3. EXECUTIVE carries out laws (to cause war) III. Interpretation/application A. Negative trinity: three causes of hell on earth 1. Judging/mistrusting people instead of situations (false religion) SATAN = ignorance, mistrust, fear of the unknown/the future 2. Trying to change/control others instead of oneself (false govt) ANTICHRIST = fear of change/loss of control, fear of the past 3. Not communicating with people (false teaching) WAR = lack of communication, misunderstanding, unmet needs B. Positive trinity: three keys to heaven on earth 1. Belief in one supreme TRUTH/perfect LOVE guiding all humanity 2. Trust in one's CONSCIENCE to guide one toward TRUTH/perfection 3. Trust in one's COMMUNICATION to raise the public CONSCIENCE and to reach perfection/TRUTH. (Using the "HOLY SPIRIT" to prepare for the return of "CHRIST" and to enter the "Kingdom of GOD.") C. No matter how the trinity is symbolized, the application is the same: 1. Making peace with one's family to perfect one's COMMUNICATION 2. Resolving romantic relationships to perfect one's CONSCIENCE 3. Helping others to do the same to establish MUTUALITY, or TRUTH D. Sex and religion: direct application to human relations 1. One's COMMUNICATION and CONSCIENCE depend on the bonds with one's MOTHER and FATHER. Any problems here resurface in romantic relationships, which trigger the need to resolve conflicts in the family conscience before starting the next generation. Until the vicious cycle is broken, such conflicts are carried from generation to the next. After thousands of years of human conflict building up collectively in the general consciousness, I believe we have finally reached that breaking point. 2. What prevents most people from achieving maximum control of their CONSCIENCE and COMMUNICATION is guilt about sex, mostly generated by unnatural religious standards advocating "marriage for life" but discouraging premarital/extramarital sex, which contradict the average person's need for at least 2-3 partners in a lifetime. Rejection of the possibility of multiple marriages is the source of the repressed guilt on the conscience that manifests itself in all types of excessive behaviors and is the underlying cause of all the problems in society today; unnatural views about sex promote unnatural views about life and death, and thus result in unnatural "catch-22" situations involving "right-to-life" /"right-to-death" issues. (Since my family has suffered from both these crises, I feel that my personal need to resolve this dual conflict was what ultimately triggered the "spiritual revelations" that lead to this study.) 3. This "marriage-for-life" convention was implanted after the hostile conversion from matriarchal societies/female-goddess religions to the current male-dominant religions/governments, in an attempt by men to control women like any other form of "property." Once the public is educated on the historical cause of the gender imbalance, we can establish mutuality between men and women in the church and state. Another way of viewing the "war between the sexes" is that since childbearing has allowed women to martyr themselves in a way that men can never experience physically, perhaps the significance of Christ having been a male sacrifice was to balance the scales on a spiritual level. In any case, it is important to determine which psychological/spiritual differences between men and women are indeed an inherent part of human nature, and which can be overcome through proper education. Dear Friends: Please help spread the above ideas (the outline ends at III.D.3.). ACTUALIZE WORLD PEACE. Thank you, Emily Nghiem. Received: from ukcc.uky.edu by ULKYVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 3862; Mon, 16 Sep 91 10:58:08 EDT Received: by UKCC (Mailer R2.08) id 2719; Mon, 16 Sep 91 10:58:29 EDT Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1991 09:19:02 CDT Reply-To: Practical Christian Life Sender: CHRISTIA@ASUACAD From: Andrew Clemens Subject: New Age stuff!!?! To: Angela Zimmerman , Barbara Whitener , Al Coholick , jeff t >From: USENET News System >Subject: Sex and Religion > >Dear Friends: Please help spread the following ideas (the outline ends at > III.D.3.). ACTUALIZE WORLD PEACE. Thank you, Emily Nghiem. > >I. GOAL: To unify all religions into one trinitarian view of human nature > that has practical application to modern society No thank you, I prefer my relationship to God to not be classed as a religion, rather a relationship, and I am sure that the Christians on this list agree with me. As far as having a trinitarian view of human nature, I do believe in having one as much as it reflects the image of God in which man has been made, but one remember that God is 1 God. But, for the record I saw a few interesting things I would like to comment on in the post ..........much deleted.............. > G. U.S. Government: three branches (see negative trinity, next page) > 1. JUDICIAL interprets laws (to judge people) > 2. LEGISLATIVE creates laws (to control people) > 3. EXECUTIVE carries out laws (to cause war) The three branches of our government came about due to a Bible verse, Isaiah 33:22. (check the minutes of the Congressional Congress) .........much more deleted....................... > 2. What prevents most people from achieving maximum control of >their CONSCIENCE and COMMUNICATION is guilt about sex, mostly generated >by unnatural religious standards advocating "marriage for life" but >discouraging premarital/extramarital sex, ........................ Marriage was instituted by God to represent Christ's union with the Church (more info is available ask me) Marriage for life simply is simply a statement showing that people after arrival in heaven will not get kicked out. .............more stuff deleted.................. > 3. This "marriage-for-life" convention was implanted after the hostile >conversion from matriarchal societies/female-goddess religions to the >current male-dominant religions/governments, in an attempt by men to >control women like any other form of "property." Once the public is >educated on the historical cause of the gender imbalance, we can establish >mutuality between men and women in the church and state. Another way of First of all, the this seems to go into the theory extensively written about, "The Evolution of Religion" which was discounted seriously by a student of the person who wrote the original work on the subject, and more recent evidence points to a native monotheism. (References available on request) .......the rest deleted........................ Andrew Clemens Unity comes not from every rock being the same, but rather from every rock being in its appointed place in the temple of our God. ---Someone Received: from ukcc.uky.edu by ULKYVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 3840; Mon, 16 Sep 91 10:53:52 EDT Received: by UKCC (Mailer R2.08) id 2583; Mon, 16 Sep 91 10:52:06 EDT Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1991 10:01:00 -0400 Reply-To: Practical Christian Life Sender: CHRISTIA@ASUACAD From: Lora Mae Payzant Harris Subject: Re: Sex and Religion X-To: CHRISTIA%ASUACAD.BITNET@UVVM.UVic.ca To: Angela Zimmerman , Barbara Whitener , Al Coholick , jeff t Date: 16-SEP-1991 10:59:30 From: USENET News System Subject: Sex and Religion Dear Friends: Please help spread the above ideas (the outline ends at III.D.3.). ACTUALIZE WORLD PEACE. Thank you, Emily Nghiem. Dear Emily, I would love to actualize world peace. Let me tell you how it could be done - if all persons on earth would admit thier sins and repent and live in love with GOd and each other. But we can't do it. God can. Through Christ only can we try. Some problems with your approach: >"I. GOAL: To unify all religions into one trinitarian view of human nature > that has practical application to modern society" Problem: We don't _want_ to be unified with religions that do not acknowledge the Christ, or do not acknowledge the one God, Creator of all things. The CHristian view of human nature _has_ practical application to modern and ancient societies. It explaims man's failings, and his flashes of goodness. >"II. Trinitarian roots > B. Christianity: The Holy Trinity > 1. GOD = divine truth/faith/love > 2. CHRIST = perfect conscience > 3. HOLY SPIRIT = perfect communion/communication" Problem: I can only speak for CHristianity, but you've misinterpreted the Trinity. God is indeed the source of love and divine truth ( and all other truth) and of faith. But our Trinity is not God, Christ, and Holy Spirit, it is one God; Father Son and Holy Spirit. Christ is not 'perfect concience' even though He had one - He was God incarnate, the same Word that was with the Father before Creation. The Holy Spirit is not 'perfect communion / communication' although He can give these things, He is one Person of GOd, the Paraclete, the Comforter. >"III. Interpretation/application > A. Negative trinity: three causes of hell on earth > 1. Judging/mistrusting people instead of situations (false religion) > SATAN = ignorance, mistrust, fear of the unknown/the future > 2. Trying to change/control others instead of oneself (false govt) > ANTICHRIST = fear of change/loss of control, fear of the past > 3. Not communicating with people (false teaching) > WAR = lack of communication, misunderstanding, unmet needs" Problem: You've pinpointed a lot of things correctly, but not their source. Yes, we blame others, try to control others, fail to communicate with others. Why? Sin. What is the remedy? To repent and let Christ change you. >" B. Positive trinity: three keys to heaven on earth > 1. Belief in one supreme TRUTH/perfect LOVE guiding all humanity > 2. Trust in one's CONSCIENCE to guide one toward TRUTH/perfection > 3. Trust in one's COMMUNICATION to raise the public CONSCIENCE and > to reach perfection/TRUTH. (Using the "HOLY SPIRIT" to prepare > for the return of "CHRIST" and to enter the "Kingdom of GOD.")" Problem: As you did not point out the underlying problem, again you don't give the complete solution. We do NOT trust our conscience solely, but the revelation of God in Christ teaches us to reform our bent and feeble consciences. And we know that there is no 'heaven on earth' until He comes again. We are to do our best in this world, but knowing as we fight against poverty and war that they will not be solved by us. >" C. No matter how the trinity is symbolized, the application is the same > 1. Making peace with one's family to perfect one's COMMUNICATION > 2. Resolving romantic relationships to perfect one's CONSCIENCE > 3. Helping others to do the same to establish MUTUALITY, or TRUTH > D. Sex and religion: direct application to human relations > 1. One's COMMUNICATION and CONSCIENCE depend on the bonds with >one's MOTHER and FATHER. Any problems here resurface in romantic >relationships, which trigger the need to resolve conflicts in the family >conscience before starting the next generation. Until the vicious cycle is >broken, such conflicts are carried from generation to the next. After >thousands of years of human conflict building up collectively in the general >consciousness, I believe we have finally reached that breaking point." Problem: Again, you have missed the underlying problem - human sin, which is the _cause_ of the distortion of relationships. And finally, you come to your real point, your real intention.... >" 2. What prevents most people from achieving maximum control of >their CONSCIENCE and COMMUNICATION is guilt about sex, mostly generated >by unnatural religious standards advocating "marriage for life" but >discouraging premarital/extramarital sex, which contradict the average >person's need for at least 2-3 partners in a lifetime. ... > 3. This "marriage-for-life" convention was implanted after the hostile >conversion from matriarchal societies/female-goddess religions to the >current male-dominant religions/governments, in an attempt by men to >control women like any other form of "property." ... " Once again you have it the wrong way around. It is not religion that spawnes guilt, it is our sin that spawns our guilt. Therefore, since the guilt is _real_ ignoring it is useless. And your history is as shaky as your theology. Woman are as violent as men. Women in this society are seen as more peaceful simply because they lack the power to be violent, not because they're 'better'. And the fact that men have tried to control women by various means ( and the other fact, which you leave out, that woman try to control men by various means, and men, men, and women, women, ) is irrelevant to the question of sexual morality. In CHristianity, the 'marriage for life idea' was not implanted after conversion from [mythical] ubiquitous, nurturing, nonviolent mothergoddess religion was squashed - it was with us from the start for many reasons, some practical ( childrearing, mutual help, mutual sexual pleasure ) and theological ( that they become one flesh - that man and woman together are a symbol of Christ and his church. ) Mutual lifetime monogamy - working through all problems that arise, always attempting to keep the solemn vows to love and honour and cherish, in faithfulness and respect and kindness and help to each other, ( Although we cannot even start to do this without GOd's help!) - that is the way to bring up healthy, secure, whole children - not by 'serial monogamy[sic]' or by promiscuity. Lora Harris, Virology Technician | University of P.E.I, Atlantic Veterinary College --+-- Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, C1A 4P3 | 1-902-566-0845 LHARRIS@UPEI.CA | Received: from ukcc.uky.edu by ULKYVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 5194; Mon, 16 Sep 91 14:43:12 EDT Received: by UKCC (Mailer R2.08) id 9272; Mon, 16 Sep 91 14:34:55 EDT Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1991 13:29:23 CDT Reply-To: Discussion about BITNET policies Sender: CHRISTIA@ASUACAD Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Comments: Resent-From: "Wayne L. Churchill" Comments: Originally-From: USENET News System From: "Wayne L. Churchill" Subject: Sex and Religion To: Angela Zimmerman , Barbara Whitener , Al Coholick , jeff t This document arrived from POLICY-L this morning. It represents a view of one who doesn't really understand what a Christian life means even though the concept of the Trinity is referenced. - - The original note follows - - Dear Friends: Please help spread the following ideas (the outline ends at III.D.3.). ACTUALIZE WORLD PEACE. Thank you, Emily Nghiem. I. GOAL: To unify all religions into one trinitarian view of human nature that has practical application to modern society II. Trinitarian roots A. Buddhism: The Three Refuges 1. DHARMA = doctrine/truth 2. BUDDHA = perfect wisdom/rationality 3. SANGHA = community B. Christianity: The Holy Trinity 1. GOD = divine truth/faith/love 2. CHRIST = perfect conscience 3. HOLY SPIRIT = perfect communion/communication C. Muslim: The Three Authorities 1. KORAN = one truth/one God 2. SHARIAH = principles guiding all of man's acts 3. SUNNAH = deeds/teachings of Mohammed and his followers D. Confucianism: The Three Cardinal Virtues 1. JEN = supreme virtue/love 2. YI = highest principle embodied in man 3. LI = outward expression of moral sentiment/standard E. Unitarianism: (three goals listed consecutively in the creed) 1. Seeking of TRUTH 2. Right of CONSCIENCE 3. Service to the COMMUNITY F. Psychology: tri-partite model of human behavior 1. SUPEREGO = spiritual drive 2. EGO = emotional/mental drive 3. ID = physical drive G. U.S. Government: three branches (see negative trinity, next page) 1. JUDICIAL interprets laws (to judge people) 2. LEGISLATIVE creates laws (to control people) 3. EXECUTIVE carries out laws (to cause war) III. Interpretation/application A. Negative trinity: three causes of hell on earth 1. Judging/mistrusting people instead of situations (false religion) SATAN = ignorance, mistrust, fear of the unknown/the future 2. Trying to change/control others instead of oneself (false govt) ANTICHRIST = fear of change/loss of control, fear of the past 3. Not communicating with people (false teaching) WAR = lack of communication, misunderstanding, unmet needs B. Positive trinity: three keys to heaven on earth 1. Belief in one supreme TRUTH/perfect LOVE guiding all humanity 2. Trust in one's CONSCIENCE to guide one toward TRUTH/perfection 3. Trust in one's COMMUNICATION to raise the public CONSCIENCE and to reach perfection/TRUTH. (Using the "HOLY SPIRIT" to prepare for the return of "CHRIST" and to enter the "Kingdom of GOD.") C. No matter how the trinity is symbolized, the application is the same: 1. Making peace with one's family to perfect one's COMMUNICATION 2. Resolving romantic relationships to perfect one's CONSCIENCE 3. Helping others to do the same to establish MUTUALITY, or TRUTH D. Sex and religion: direct application to human relations 1. One's COMMUNICATION and CONSCIENCE depend on the bonds with one's MOTHER and FATHER. Any problems here resurface in romantic relationships, which trigger the need to resolve conflicts in the family conscience before starting the next generation. Until the vicious cycle is broken, such conflicts are carried from generation to the next. After thousands of years of human conflict building up collectively in the general consciousness, I believe we have finally reached that breaking point. 2. What prevents most people from achieving maximum control of their CONSCIENCE and COMMUNICATION is guilt about sex, mostly generated by unnatural religious standards advocating "marriage for life" but discouraging premarital/extramarital sex, which contradict the average person's need for at least 2-3 partners in a lifetime. Rejection of the possibility of multiple marriages is the source of the repressed guilt on the conscience that manifests itself in all types of excessive behaviors and is the underlying cause of all the problems in society today; unnatural views about sex promote unnatural views about life and death, and thus result in unnatural "catch-22" situations involving "right-to-life" /"right-to-death" issues. (Since my family has suffered from both these crises, I feel that my personal need to resolve this dual conflict was what ultimately triggered the "spiritual revelations" that lead to this study.) 3. This "marriage-for-life" convention was implanted after the hostile conversion from matriarchal societies/female-goddess religions to the current male-dominant religions/governments, in an attempt by men to control women like any other form of "property." Once the public is educated on the historical cause of the gender imbalance, we can establish mutuality between men and women in the church and state. Another way of viewing the "war between the sexes" is that since childbearing has allowed women to martyr themselves in a way that men can never experience physically, perhaps the significance of Christ having been a male sacrifice was to balance the scales on a spiritual level. In any case, it is important to determine which psychological/spiritual differences between men and women are indeed an inherent part of human nature, and which can be overcome through proper education. Dear Friends: Please help spread the above ideas (the outline ends at III.D.3.). ACTUALIZE WORLD PEACE. Thank you, Emily Nghiem.

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