[ref001] Much Ado About Nothing [ref002] Much Ado About Nothing Steve Gunter Farrell Till

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[ref001] Much Ado About Nothing [ref002] Much Ado About Nothing Steve Gunter Farrell Till alleges [ref003]Genesis 6:1-4 proves the book of Genesis contains a mixture of mythology. In fact, Till has simply misread the passage. What is the meaning of [ref004]Genesis 6:1-4? Science confirms the unitary origin of the human species in reports of experiments that validate [ref005]Genesis 3:20, wherein Eve is named the mother of all living. All women now living on the earth derive from but one common mother. In the May 13, 1985, issue of The New Yorker, Alex Shoumatoff demonstrated the "diamond shape" of human genealogy. This is true since ancient cultures did not have the distance-conquering automobiles and conveyances that modern man possesses. Adam Clarke in his admired commentary concludes that the phrase "sons of God" certainly cannot mean (as skeptics desire) "sons of gods." The polytheistic presupposition Mr. Till brings to his reading makes him stumble over the passage and so misunderstand its true meaning. What is meant by "sons of God"? These are the descendants of righteous Abel. Who are the daughters of men? These are the offspring of evil Cain. Such a reading makes much more sense than the skeptical skullduggery Till's essay engages in. [ref006]Genesis 6:4 causes much trouble for Mr. Till, especially when it comes to "nephilim in the earth." The root word here is naphal and means to fall. The King James translators followed the Septuagint and thus "giants." We do not have inspired translations, but we do have inspired texts. Mr. Till cites [ref007]Numbers 13:32-33 where the word Nephilim is associated with people of great stature, but the correct meaning of the word is, among other things, to fall upon. Hence, the "sons of Anak" were men of violence and perhaps inclined to banditry and such like. [ref008]Genesis 6:11 says the earth was filled with violence. Thus is explained the Nephilim that Mr. Till transforms into giants to suit his polytheistic presuppositions. Furthermore, the rebellion of the angels ([ref009]Jude 6) must be separated from the sexual crimes of Sodom in [ref010]Jude 7. The reason Mr. Till is a skeptic and not a saint today appears to be primarily due to a massive misreading of the text and too much study of noninspired works such as the spurious book of Enoch. I pray the day will come when Farrell Till returns to the faith and again preaches the truth from the book of books, the Holy Bible. (Steve Gunter's address is 1202 Royal Drive, Bentonville, AR 72712.) EDITOR'S NOTE: I was tempted to forego my usual editorial rejoinder and just let the glaring inadequacy of Mr. Gunter's "rebuttal" speak for itself. Of ten fundamentalist preachers and writers who were sent advanced copies of "If It Walks Like a Duck..." Mr. Gunter was the only one who accepted our invitation to write a rebuttal. Since the offer was made and he at least made the effort, we decided to publish his response. Mr. Gunter sorely needs to explain his allusion to scientific confirmation of "the unitary origin of the human species" that he claims "validates [ref011]Genesis 3:20 wherein Eve is named the mother of all living." If he meant the findings of biochemists Vincent Sarich and Allan Wilson, whose studies in mitochondrial DNA have traced the ancestry of all humans back to one woman, he needs to take another look at the data. Their studies were based on the assumption of a 2 to 4 percent steady rate of mutation in mitochondrial DNA every million years. Since mitochondrial enzymes are carried in the ovum but not the sperm, Sarich's and Wilson's DNA "clock" was able to trace human ancestry back to a single woman who had lived 200,000 years ago. I wonder if Gunter is willing to accept that date. The same DNA clock indicates that the hominid line that eventually produced "Eve" had diverged 5 million years ago from the primates that chimpanzees and gorillas evolved from. Is Gunter willing to accept that finding? If not, he has no business citing scientific "discoveries" whose major conclusions he rejects. At any rate, the last thing Mr. Gunter should be doing is appealing to science to prove the accuracy of the Genesis record. He will find himself in a peck of trouble if he keeps doing that. I wonder why he even referred to "the unitary origin of the human species." What relevance does it have to the issue we are supposed to be discussing? All humans have descended from one woman; therefore, the Genesis writer could not have believed that angels once intermarried with human women. Is that what he was trying to say? If so, he will have to explain his logic to me, because I can't see any possible reasoning principle to base that conclusion on. Surely, he doesn't think that I believe angels and human women actually did marry. I believe only that the Genesis writer thought that such marriages did occur. But even if angels and women had in fact married as the Genesis writer obviously believed, the mitochondrial DNA studies would still be irrelevant to the issue. Mitochondrial DNA can be transmitted only by females, and in the mixed marriages of Genesis 6, the angels had assumed the male role in reproduction. So why did Gunter wag this into the debate? He spoke of Adam Clarke's "admired commentary," but he didn't tell us anything about who admires it and what that admiration is supposed to mean. He didn't even tell us Clarke's grounds for concluding that beni ha-elohim in [ref012]Genesis 6:2 could not mean "sons of the gods"; he just told us that Clarke had concluded this and apparently expected us to accept it with no supporting explanation. I suspect that Mr. Gunter is too accustomed to speaking to gullible pulpit audiences who buy everything he says without demanding proof. Clarke's commentary is widely used by fundamentalist preachers, so that alone speaks volumes about what one can expect to find in it when the issue of inerrancy is at stake. One has to wonder, then, just how naive Mr. Gunter is to think that the mere citing of what a "commentary" says is sufficient to settle an issue as complex as this one. I can cite Bible commentaries that agree with my position, so what does that prove? The Revised English Bible was translated by a committee of reputable Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic scholars, and they translated beni ha-elohim in [ref013]Genesis 6 as "sons of the gods." That surely carries more scholastic weight than what a single unabashedly fundamentalist commentator has said on the matter. Gunter accused me of "transform(ing)" the Nephilim into giants to suit my "polytheistic presuppositions." In so doing, he completely ignored my analysis of the word nephilim, which showed that its usage in the OT was clearly associated with giantism. If I have "transformed" the Nephilim into giants, I am in good company, because the translators of several versions (KJV, GNB, Septuagint, Amplified, Confraternity, Revised Berkeley, Lamsa's, and Living Bible) rendered the word giants. In past articles, I have reminded readers that the Holy Spirit (according to the inerrancy doctrine) must have held the Septuagint in high regard, because he frequently directed New Testament writers to quote it. How then can Gunter discredit it as he did by faulting the KJV translators for "follow(ing) the Septuagint"? If the Septuagint was good enough for the Holy Spirit, why shouldn't it have been good enough for the KJV translators? As for my "polytheistic presuppositions," are we to assume that Mr. Gunter's hermeneutic approach to this passage was completely free of presuppositions? I suspect that if he examined his motives closely enough he would find at least a smidgen of predisposition to the inerrancy doctrine in his denial of angels and giants in this Genesis passage. Gunter told us that the sons of God in this passage were merely "the descendants of righteous Abel" and that the daughters of men were "the offspring of evil Cain." But what evidence did he offer to prove this theory? None whatsoever! It was simply an arbitrary pronouncement. Anyone with experience in trying to reason with bibliolaters knows that they are good at making arbitrary pronouncements to resolve discrepancies in the Bible. The only problem is that arbitrary pronouncements prove nothing. One has to wonder, however, about certain implications in this pronouncement. If the "sons of God" were "descendants of righteous Abel" and "the daughters of men" were "the offspring of evil Cain," does this mean that righteousness and wickedness are hereditary traits? If one had descended from Abel, he was righteous; if one had descended from Cain, he was evil. Is this what Gunter is saying? Unless the Church of Christ has changed radically since I was in it, I don't think he will be willing to accept the idea of hereditary good and evil. Furthermore, there is nothing in the Bible text to indicate that Cain lived an evil life after his exile for killing his brother. Certainly, there is nothing to suggest that his offspring were any more evil than the offspring of Adam's and Eve's other children. So just what is Gunter's basis for saying that "such a reading (sons of God = descendants of righteous Abel, and daughters of men = offspring of evil Cain) makes much more sense than the skeptical skullduggery Till's essay engages in"? If completely groundless assumption makes more sense than documented critical analysis, I suppose he is right. Gunter accused me of "stumbl(ing) over the passage," but if anyone has stumbled over it, he has. [ref014]Genesis 6:1 does not say, "And it came to pass that when the offspring of Cain began to multiply on the face of the ground and daughters were born to them, etc." It says that "when men (people, NRSV) began to multiply on the face of the ground and daughters were born to them...." Gunter is doing a lot of stumbling to get only the offspring of Cain from the word men in this verse. The truth is that the passage says nothing at all about either Cain or Abel. Gunter's "explanation," as I said, is purely arbitrary. Gunter asserted that "the rebellion of the angels ([ref015]Jude 6) must be separated from the sexual crimes of Sodom in [ref016]Jude 7," but why must they be separated? Jude certainly didn't separate them. After describing the fate of the rebellious angels in [ref017]verse 6, Jude said, "Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which, in the same manner as THEY, indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural lust, etc." ([ref018]v:7). Does Gunter know what "in the same manner" means? Can't he see that the antecedent of the pronoun they has to be the angels in verse 6? Jude was obviously saying that the people of Sodom in indulging in sexual immorality and pursuing unnatural lust had done in the same manner as THEY, the rebellious angels just referred to. If not, why not? That indulgence in sexual immorality was the sin of these fallen angels was made very clear in 1 Enoch and the other apocryphal works cited in my article. Gunter tried to dismiss the apocryphal references by a simple assertion that the book of Enoch was "spurious," so he apparently holds the book in considerably less esteem than did Jude who both alluded to its judgment of fallen angels and quoted it directly: "And to these also Enoch, the seventh from Adam, PROPHESIED..." (V:14). This introduced a direct quotation from 1 Enoch 1:9, and the way that Jude quoted it (1) ascribed the authorship of the book to Enoch, the seventh-generation descendant of Adam, who was translated directly to heaven, and (2) attributed prophetic abilities to the author of the book. Mr. Gunter cannot dismiss the impact of this by just crying, "Spurious!" In the first place, if by "spurious" he means "lacking authenticity," then 1 Enoch is no more spurious than Genesis, because no reputable Bible scholar believes that Genesis was actually written by Moses. Whether 1 Enoch is "spurious" or not is beside the point. I quoted the book and other apocryphal works simply to show that a legend about the intermarriage of angels and human women was widely believed when the book of Genesis was written. That fact and the striking parallel in the wording of [ref019]Genesis 6:1 and 1 Enoch 6:1 must be dealt with. Gunter dealt with neither, and he didn't because he can't. [ref020]Genesis 6:1-4 was deeply rooted in mythology as were the creation, the flood, the tower of Babel and most of the other sto- ries in the first eleven chapters of Genesis. To deny this is to deny the obvious. FREE SUBSCRIPTION: A free one-year subscription to _The_Skeptical_ Review_ can be obtained by emailing [ref021]Jftill@aol.com or by writing to P.O. Box 717, Canton, IL 61520-0717. File contributed by [ref022]Farrell Till; page maintained by the [ref023]Internet Infidels. [ref024]Email: [ref025]infidel@freethought.tamu.edu [ref026]JL [ref027]Copyright © 1995 [ref028]Internet Infidels. HTML Reproduction Rights Reserved. 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