From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Anneliese Lilje)
Subject: Re: Scientology Discredited
Date: 27 Nov 90 00:18:19 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
XEMU-SP@THETA-GO (See Below) writes:
>There has been a small but heated discussion lately in alt.atheism
>concerning the Church of Scientology. I have refrained from posting
>until now because I didn't think that that was the best forum for this
>discussion and because it has taken me this long to calm down enough
>to be coherent. Here is my story. I will follow it with a series
>of easily supportable facts about the organization.
>Last year a former friend of mine announced to me that he had joined
>the Church of Scientology. I knew nothing about this organization at
This is all pretty funny in a way. At the moment I am completing a
Ph.D. in Geology at the University of California, Riverside. My field
area is the San Jacinto Valley in Riverside County...just east of Riverside
California. `Ron Hubbard' has a `compound' smack in the middle of my
field area. Perhaps you will find what I know about this compound to
The compound has a very `nice' sounding name like `Golden Studios' or
something like that....I'll catch the offical sign next time I am down
there. It is heavily gated and the guards are armed (semi-automatic
rifles). It is also heavily barbed in places. Additionally there are signs
extending for a couple of miles around the compound that say STAY OUT!
etc. etc.. Now this is no big deal because there are a lot of places with
no tresspassing signs...but wait til you hear this...
The compound is flanked to the norteast by very high and steep mountains.
Actually the compound is located smack on top of the San Jacinto
Fault (another story, another time). To the southwest the
compound opens into the San Jacinto Basin. The mountains to the northeast
also include public property...as such hang gliders use this area as
a launch to some pretty spectacular rides over the valley. My brother
lived in Hemet for a while and a friend of his was up on the mountains
to catch a draft. The lines for the Hubbard compound are not marked
in many of the most trecherous areas (were talking STEEP terrain). My
brothers friend apparently stepped over the line a few 10's of yards. There
is one small road (accessable by 4x4) which these people use to haul their
gear to the summit. Within a few minutes 2 Hubbard `cops' and a truck
drove to the top (semi automatics and everything) and told my brothers
friend that he was tresspassing. My brother's friend (half clad in hang
gliding gear) apologized and told the guards he would immediately leave the
area. Rather than escorting him off the property, theyu told him he would
be comming with them and that he would ride in the 3x3 foot tin `box'
mounted in the back of their truck. To say the least my brothers friend
refused and started to walk away from the compound...leaving his glider
and everything. They fired in the air once and told him not to move or
they would shoot him. He got in the truck. They kept him over night in the
box. In the morning the sheriff came looking for my brothers friend as
two of his gliding companions reported him missing (fearing he ditched
somewhere and was hurt). The Sheriff then got a call from the compound and
said they had my brothers friend. He was released to the Sheriff. He filed
a complaint (I don't know the outcome) and he was told by the Sheriff's
department to be careful in that area as `they have reason to believe
hikers have been murdered behind the compound'. This is all too scary
for me. To say the least I give a wide bearth to the compound. THese
Scientologists are crazy screwed up people.
Oh, the reason they knew my brothers friend was up their...They said
that he tripped their `alarms'?????
>(NB. This is not my account; please do not send e-mail to this address)