To: All Nov-15-93 10:39PM
Subject: Flying Saucers In Ancient India.
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Dear Folks: I just read something on the Net that was so good
that I thought it would be good to put it in on at this time.
I have read a book by D Hatcher Childress. I belienve it was
Lost Cities of North and Centeral America. I hope Robert R.
doesn't mind me taking this information off the Net and spreading
it around a little more. It's about 18k bytes of information.
So don't strain you brain, Jane...............................
Ancient Indian Aircraft Technology
by D. Hatcher Childress
from The Anti-Gravity Handbook avaliable from:
Adventures Unlimited Press, Post Office Box 22, Stelle, IL, USA
(815) 253-6390, Write for their FREE catalog.
Many researchers into the UFO enigma tend to overlook a
very important fact. While it assumed that most flying saucers
are of alien, or perhaps Governmental Military origin, another
possible origin of UFOs is ancient India and Atlantis.
What we know about ancient Indian flying vehicles comes
from ancient Indian sources; written texts that have come down
to us through the centuries. There is no doubt that most of
these texts are authentic; many are the well known ancient
Indian Epics themselves, and there are literally hundreds of
them. Most of them have not even been translated into English
yet from the old sanskrit.
The Indian Emperor Ashoka started a "Secret Society of the
Nine Unknown Men": great Indian scientists who were supposed to
catalogue the many sciences. Ashoka kept their work secret
because he was afraid that the advanced science catalogued by
these men, culled from ancient Indian sources, would be used for
the evil purpose of war, which Ashoka was strongly against,
having been converted to Buddhism after defeating a rival army
in a bloody battle.
The "Nine Unknown Men" wrote a total of nine books,
presumably one each. Book number was "The Secrets of
Gravitation!" This book, known to historians, but not actually
seen by them dealt chiefly with "gravity control." It is
presumably still around somewhere, kept in a secret library in
India, Tibet or elsewhere (perhaps even in North America
somewhere). One can certainly undertand Ashoka's reasoning for
wanting to keep such knowledge a secret, assuming it exists. if
the Nazis had such weapons at their disposal during World War
Ii. Ashoka was also aware devastating wars using such advanced
vehicles and other "futuristic weapons" that had destoryed the
ancient Indian "Rama Empire" several thousand years before.
Only a few years ago, the Chinese discovered some sanskrit
documents in Lhasa, Tibet and sent them to the University of
Chandrigarh to be translated. Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University
said recently that the documents contain directions for building
Their method of propulsion, she said, was
"anti-gravitational" and was based upon a system analogous to
that of "laghima," the unknown power of the ego existing in
man's physiological makeup, "a centrifugal force strong enough
to counteract all gravitational pull." According to Hindu Yogis,
it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate.
Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were
called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent
a detachment of men onto any planet, according to the document,
which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts
were also said to reveal the secret of "antima"; "the cap of
invisibility" and "garima"; "how to become as heavy as a
mountain of lead."
Naturally, Indian scientists did not take the texts very
seriously, but then became more positive about the value of them
when the Chinese announced that they were including certain
parts of the data for study in their space program! This was one
of the first instances of a government admitting to be
The manuscripts did not say definitely that interplanetary
travel was ever made but did mention, of all things, a planned
trip to the Moon, though it is not clear whether this trip was
actually carried out. However, one of the great Indian epics,
the Ramayana, does have a highly detailed story in it of a trip
to the moon in a Vimana (or "Astra"), and in fact details a
battle on the moon with an "Asvin" (or Atlantean" airship.
This is but a small bit of recent evidence of anti-gravity
and aerospace technology used by Indians. To really understand
the technology, we must go much further back in time.
The so-called "Rama Empire" of Northern India and Pakistan
developed at least fifteen thousand years ago on the Indian
sub-continent and was a nation of many large, sophisticated
cities, many of which are still to be found in the deserts of
Pakistan, northern, and western India. Rama existed,
apparently, parallel to the Atlantean civilization in the
mid-Atlantic Ocean, and was ruled by "enlightened Priest-Kings"
who governed the cities, The seven greatest capital cities of
Rama were known in classical Hindu texts as "The Seven Rishi
According to ancient Indian texts, the people had flying
machines which were called "Vimanas." The ancient Indian epic
describes a Vimana as a double-deck, circular aircraft with
portholes and a dome, much as we would imagine a flying saucer.
It flew with the "speed of the wind" and gave forth a
"melodious sound." There were at least four different types of
Vimanas; some saucer shaped, others like long cylinders ("cigar
shaped airships"). The ancient Indian texts on Vimanas are so
numerous, it would take volumes to relate what they had to say.
The ancient Indians, who manufactured these ships themselves,
wrote entire flight manuals on the control of the various types
of Vimanas, many of which are still in existence, and some have
even been translated into English.
The Samara Sutradhara is a scientific treatise dealing with
every possible angle of air travel in a Vimana. There are 230
stanzas dealing with the construction, take-off, cruising for
thousand of miles, normal and forced landings, and even possible
collisions with birds. In 1875, the Vaimanika Sastra, a fourth
century B.C. text written by Bharadvajy the Wise, using even
older texts as his source, was rediscovered in a temple in
India. It dealt with the operation of Vimanas and included
information on the steering, precautions for long flights,
protection of the airships from storms and lightening and how to
switch the drive to "solar energy" from a free energy source
which sounds like "anti-gravity."
The Vaimanika Sastra (or Vymaanika-Shaastra) has eight
chapters with diagrams, describing three types of aircraft,
including apparatuses that could neither catch on fire nor
break. It also mentions 31 essential parts of these vehicles
and 16 materials from which they are constructed, which absorb
light and heat; for which reason they were considered suitable
for the construction of Vimanas. This document has been
translated into English and is available by writing the
publisher: VYMAANIDASHAASTRA AERONAUTICS by Maharishi
Bharadwaaja, translated into English and edited, printed and
published by Mr. G. R. Josyer, Mysore, India, 1979 (sorry, no
street address). Mr. Josyer is the director of the
International Academy of Sanskrit Investigation located in
There seems to be no doubt that Vimanas were powered by
some sort of "anti-gravity." Vimanas took off vertically, and
were capable of hovering in the sky, like a modern helicopter or
dirigible. Bharadvajy the Wise refers to no less than 70
authorities and 10 experts of air travel in antiquity. These
sources are now lost.
Vimanas were kept in a Vimana Griha, a kind of hanger, and
were sometimes said to be propelled by a yellowish-white liquid,
and sometimes by some sort of mercury compound, though writers
seem confused in this matter. It is most likely that the later
writers on Vimanas, wrote as observers and from earlier texts,
and were understandably confused on the princible of their
propulsion. The "yellowishwhite liquid" sounds suspiciously
like gasoline, and perhaps Vimanas had a number of different
propulsion sources, including combustion engines and even
"pulse-jet" engines. It is interesting to note, that the Nazis
developed the first practical pulse-jet engines for their V-8
rocket "buzz bombs." Hitler and the Nazi staff were
exceptionally interested in ancient India and Tibet and sent
expeditions to both these places yearly, starting in the 30's,
in order to gather esoteric evidence that they did so,
and perhaps it was from these people that the Nazis gained some
of their scientific information!
According to the Dronaparva, part of the Mahabarata, and
the Ramayana, one Vimana described was shaped like a sphere and
born along at great speed on a mighty wind generated by mercury.
It moved like a UFO, going up, down, backwards and forewards as
the pilot desired. In another Indian source, the Samar, Vimanas
were "iron machines, well-knit and smooth, with a charge of
mercury that shot out of the back in the form of a roaring
flame." Another work called the Samaranganasutradhara describes
how the vehicles were constructed. It is possible that mercury
did have something to do with the propulsion, or more possibly,
with the guidance system. Curiously, Soviet scientists have
discovered what they call "age-old instruments used in
navigating cosmic vehicles" in caves in Turkestan and the Gobi
Desert. The "devices" are hemispherical objects of glass or
porcelain, ending in a cone with a drop of mercury inside.
It is evident that ancient Indians flew around in these
vehicles, all over Asia, to Atlantis presumably; and even,
apparently, to South America. Writing found at Mohenjodaro in
Pakistan (presumed to be one of the "Seven Rishi Cities of the
Rama Empire") and still undeciphered, has also been found in one
other place in the world: Easter Island! Writing on Easter
Island, called Rongo-Rongo writing, is also undeciphered, and is
uncannily similar to the Mohenjodaro script. Was Easter Island
an air base for the Rama Empire's Vimana route? (At the
Mohenjo-Daro Vimana-drome, as the passenger walks down the
concourse, he hears the sweet, melodic sound of the announcer
over the loudspeaker,
"Rama Airways flight number seven for Bali, Easter Island,
Nazca, and Atlantis is now ready for boar-
ding. Passengers please proceed to gate number..")
in Tibet, no small distance, and speaks of the "fiery chariot"
thusly: "Bhima flew along in his car,
resplendent as the sun and loud as thunder... The flying chariot
shone like a flame in the night sky
of summer ... it swept by like a comet... It was as if two suns
were shining. Then the chariot rose up and all the heaven
In the Mahavira of Bhavabhuti, a Jain text of the eighth
century culled from older texts and traditions, we read: "An
aerial chariot, the Pushpaka, conveys many people to the capital
The sky is full of stupendous flying-machines, dark as night,
but picked out by lights with a yellowish glare-"
The Vedas, ancient Hindu poems, thought to be the oldest of
all the Indian texts, describe Vimanas of various shapes and
sizes: the "ahnihotra-vimana" with two engines, the
"elephant-vimana" with more engines, and other types named after
the kingfisher, ibis and other animals.
Unfortunately, Vimanas, like most scientific discoveries,
were ultimately used for war. Atlanteans used their flying
machines, "Vailixi," a similar type of aircraft, to literally
try and subjugate the world, it would seem, if Indian texts are
to be believed. The Atlanteans, known as "Asvins" in the Indian
writings, were apparently even more advanced technologically
than the Indians, and certainly of a more war-like temperment.
Although no ancient texts on Atlantean Vailixi are known to
exist, some information has come down through esoteric, "occult"
sources which describe their flying machines. Similar, if not
identical to Vimanas, Vailixi were generally "cigar shaped" and
had the capability of manuvering underwater as well as in the
atmosphere or even outer space. Other vehicles, like Vimanas,
were saucer shaped, and could apparently also be submerged.
According to Eklal Kueshana, author of "The Ultimate
Frontier," in an article he wrote in 1966, Vailixi were first
developed in Atlantis 20,000 years ago, and the most common ones
are "saucershaped of generally trapezoidal cross-section with
three hemispherical engine pods on the underside." "They use a
mechanical antigravity device driven by engines developing
approximately 80,000 horse power."
The Ramayana, Mahabarata and other texts speak of the
hideous war that took place, some ten or twelve thousand years
ago between Atlantis and Rama using weapons of destruction that
could not be imagined by readers until the second half of this
The ancient Mahabharata, one of the sources on Vimanas,
goes on to tell the awesome destructiveness of the war: "...(the
weapon was) a single projectile charged with all the power of
the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame As
bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendor... An iron
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis
And the Andhakas.
... the corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognizable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.
... After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected...
... to escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment..."
It would seem that the Mahabharata is describing an atomic
war! References like this one are not isolated; but battles,
using a fantastic array of weapons and aerial vehicles are
common in all the epic Indian books. One even describes a
Vimana-Vailix battle on the Moon! The above section very
accurately describes what an atomic explosion would look like
and the effects of the radioactivity on the population. Jumping
into water is the only respite.
When the Rishi City of Mohenjodaro was excavated by
archeologists in the last century, they found skeletons just
lying in the streets, some of them holding hands, as if some
great doom had suddenly overtaken them. These skeletons are
among the most radioactive ever found, on a par with those found
at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Ancient cities whose brick and stone
walls have literaly been vitrified, that is-fused together, can
be found in India, Ireland, Scotland, France, Turkey and other
places. There is no logical explanation for the vitrification
of stone forts and cities, except from an atomic blast.
Futhermore, at Mohenjo-Daro, a well planned city laid on a grid,
with a plumbing system superior to those used in Pakistan and
India today, the streets were littered with "black lumps of
glass." These globs of glass were discovered to be clay pots
that had melted under intense heat!
With the cataclysmic sinking of Atlantis and the wiping out
of Rama with atomic weapons, the world collapsed into a "stone
age" of sorts, and modern history picks up a few thousand years
later. Yet, it would seem that not all the Vimanas and Vailixi
of Rama and Atlantis were gone. Built to last for thousands of
of years, many of them would still be in use, as evidenced by
Ashoka's "Nine Unknown Men" and the Lhasa manuscript.
That secret societies or "Brotherhoods" of exceptional,
"enlightened" human beings would have preserved these inventions
and the knowledge of science, history, etc., does not seem
surprising. Many well known historical personages including
Jesus, Buddah, Lao Tzu, Confucious, Krishna, Zoroaster,
Mahavira, Quetzalcoatl, Akhenaton, Moses, and more recent
inventors and of course many other people who will probably
remain anonomous, were probably members of such a secret
It is interesting to note that when Alexander the Great
invaded India more than two thousand years ago, his historians
chronicled that at one point they were attacked by "flying,
fiery shields" that dove at his army and frightened the cavalry.
These "flying saucers" did not use any atomic bombs or beam
weapons on Alexander's army however, perhaps out of benevolence,
and Alexander went on to conquer India.
It has been suggested by many writers that these "Brotherhoods"
keep some of their Vimanas and Vailixi in secret caverns in
Tibet or some other place is Central Asia, and the Lop Nor
Desert in western China is known to be the center of a great UFO
mystery. Perhaps it is here that many of the airships are still
kept, in underground bases much as the Americans, British and
Soviets have built around the world in the past few decades.
Still, not all UFO activity can be accounted for by old
Vimanas making trips to the Moon for some reason. Undoubtedly,
some are from the Military Governments of the world, and
possibly even from other planets. Of course, many UFO sightings
are "swamp, gas, clouds, hoaxes, and hallucinations, while there
is considerable evidence that many UFO sightings, especially
"kidnappings" and the like, are the result of what is generally
called "telepathic hypnosis." One common thread that often runs
between "Alien kidnappings," "sex with aliens," and other "close
encounters of a third kind" is a buzzing in the ears just before
the encounter. According to many well informed people, this is
a sure sign of telepathic hypnosis."
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't
make it drink"
Robert K. Rouse email@example.com
JW So that's what the man posted.