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From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Merchant of Chaos)
Subject: VERA IS A LIAR!!! I GOT PROOF!!!
Date: 26 Oct 1995 05:11:20 GMT
Organization: LI Net (Long Island Network)
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VERA HAS BEEN CAUGHT IN A LIE!!!!!
The beginning of this story goes back to May 22 of this year, when I was
assaulted outside the New York Sheraton Hotel by Scientologists posing as
hotel security guards, after I tried to attend the cult's 40th
Anniversary Celebration, which was advertised, on the Internet, and in
various newspapers, as an event that was open to the public. I posted an
account of that incident that night, right here in a.r.s.
The next part of the story stems from a post that appeared in a.r.s. just
last week, in which Vera identified "Merchant of Chaos" as "Paul Grosswald".
This prompted Ron Newman to ask, in a followup post, if I had ever disclosed
my name before, or if Vera had just "outed" me. Vera responded to Ron with
the following e-mail:
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 20:00:13 -0400
Subject: Re: HATE GROUP FILES BANKRUPTCY PETITION!!
Grosswald showed up at some Church event and falsely reported that the
security guards who threw him out of the hotel were members of the Sea Org.
I checked this rumor out and learned that it was a complete falsehood (to
be expected) and that the security personnel were hotel security. One of
the Church members who was at the event recognized Grosswald who the next
day posted the embellished story to ars under "Merchant of Chaos". Having
been to some of the CAN events where Grosswald has been present, I
realized that he is a crybaby to begin with and (in my opinion) went to
the NY Church event looking to start trouble. Obviously the hotel
security saw it the same way and tossed him out on his ear. Sorry to be
so blunt, but, I mean - what kind of a guy would post under the name
"Merchant of Chaos?"
(end of e-mail)
*AHEM* Considering that I was at the 40th Anniversary Event alone, Vera
probably assumes that I have no witnesses, and therefore no way to refute
her claim that I was thrown out by hotel security. To the contrary!
While it is true that I was unable to nail down any reliable witnesses, I
did follow up with the hotel, and about a week later I received this
letter in the mail, from the hotel manager, written on Sheraton
May 26, 1995
Dear Mr. Grosswald,
I have learned of your call to Dan Weadock, President of ITT Sheraton,
and wish to take this opportunity to apologize for any confusion which
may have been caused.
The hotel did rent the Royal Ballroom to an organization on Monday, May 22
known as the Church of Scientology for the purpose of a meeting. Meetings
are typically arranged and coordinated by the organization with services
provided by the Hotel.
We did not have any role in your being asked to leave the meeting or the
Ballroom Foyer, this appears to have been the function of the sponsoring
Our safety and security staff was made aware of your presence once
outside the building and did interface with New York City Police
Department Midtown North Precent (sic). Our intention is always to offer
a safe and secure environment in a hospitable manner to our hotel
Gary J. Budge
Note the third paragraph, which very CLEAR-ly suggests that it was the
Church of Scientology that threw me out...NOT THE HOTEL SECURITY!!!
VERA IS LIAR! VERA IS A LIAR!! VERA IS A LIAR!!! VERA IS A LIAR!!!!
So, Vera, it's not just me saying that the "hotel security" were really
$cientologists...the Hotel is saying it, too. If you are going to post to
a.r.s., I suggest you stop lying, or at least start telling lies that you
can get away with. Of course, Vera might just argue that it was, in fact,
hotel security that assaulted me, and then, in order to cover their asses,
the hotel decided to blame $cientology. But ask yourself these questions:
1) Do hotel security guards wear uniforms? And badges? Almost never.
And when they do, the name of the hotel is clearly written on the badge.
2) Do hotel security guards throw people out, then stop them from leaving
so they can get a photograph of the "culprit"? It would never happen.
3) Do hotel security guards continue to follow the "perpetrator" up the
street....AFTER he's already left the hotel and is walking away? I doubt
4) Do hotel security guards grab people by the shirt collar and
threaten to "BUST YOUR HEAD IN?!!!" Certainly not in a well-respected,
upscale hotel like the New York Sheraton.
The "security guards" who assaulted me did all of these things, and there
were no markings on their uniforms or badges, to indicate who they worked
And by the way, Vera, what CAN events have you been to where I have been
present? What did I say or do that led you to believe I am a crybaby?
Please elaborate for the folks here at a.r.s. Thank you.