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From braintree!qnet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!cs.utexas.edu!academ!news.sesqui.net!uuneo.neosoft.com!Starbase.NeoSoft.COM!not-for-mail Fri Oct 20 10:06:54 1995 Path: braintree!qnet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!cs.utexas.edu!academ!news.sesqui.net!uuneo.neosoft.com!Starbase.NeoSoft.COM!not-for-mail From: wbarwell@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (William Barwell) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,comp.org.eff.talk Subject: "I await your reaction to the religion angle" - Hubbard, Date: 14 Oct 1995 10:08:46 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800 Lines: 63 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <45ojpu$4qr@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> References: <44qhpr$kig@crl9.crl.com> <44t9tf$ddd@crl14.crl.com> <458u5q$jrd@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> <45c9sr$puj@crl5.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: starbase.neosoft.com Xref: braintree alt.religion.scientology:116868 comp.org.eff.talk:65227 In article <45c9sr$puj@crl5.crl.com>, Andrew Milne wrote: >William Barwell (wbarwell@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM) wrote: > >: I hope that all teh ugly little quotes from Hubbard saying specifically >: that Scientology is a science, not a religion comes out. >: You clowns lied to the judge again. >: Helen O'Brien as quoted in Bare Faced Messiah shows Scientology was never >: founded as a real religion. > >There are numerous writings by Mr. Hubbard that Scientology is a >religion. Dianetics began it all, but as Mr. Hubbard continued with his >research he realized that he was dealing with the spiritual aspect of man >and so the religion of Scientology was born. > Bare Faced Messiah Page 212 "On April 10, Hubbard wrote a long letter to Helen O'Brien discussing the possibility of setting up a chain of HASI clinics, or 'Spirtual Guidance Centers' They could make 'real money' he noted, if each clinic could count on 10 or 15 clears a week, each paying $500 for twenty-four hours of auditing. He had clearly discussed the prospect of converting Scientology into a religion. 'I await your reaction to teh religion angle' he wrote. "In my opinion, we couldn't get worse opinion then we have had or have less customers with what we've got to sell. A religous charter would be necessary in Pennsylvania or NJ to make it stick. But I am sure I could make it stick.'" Scientology became a religion because he was have a hard time making sales. It was a gimmimck. A last chance, last ditch sales gimmick by a desperate Hubbard. Nothing more. It was either a religion or a string of clinics. Hubbard went with religion, probably because of legal and tax considerations. You are trying to rewrite history, Andy. But it doesn't fly. Russell Miller page 221 'Hubbard was quick to recognize there was a religous bandwagon rolling and was quick to leap nimbly aboard. In December 1953, he incorperated three new churches - the Church of American Science, the Church of Scientology, and the Church of Spiritual Engineering - in Camden, NJ.' It had little to do with spirituality, much to do with making money. It was a scam. Religion just seemed a better scanm for making money than a string of 'clinics' charging $500 for 24 hours auditing. It was just another 'angle' as Hubbard himself noted to Helen O'Brien. Nothing more. Francis of Assisi he wasn't. Pope Charles SubGenius Pope Of Houston Slack!

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