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From braintree!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!EU.net!sun4nl!xs4all!usenet Thu Oct 19 10:03:57 1995 Path: braintree!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!EU.net!sun4nl!xs4all!usenet From: kspaink@xs4all.nl (Karin Spaink) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: DUTCH report - update Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 12:42:44 GMT Organization: St. Passie Beheer Lines: 58 Message-ID: <46304r$27a@news.xs4all.nl> Reply-To: kspaink@xs4all.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: asd04-19.dial.xs4all.nl X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- As of now, there are over *ninety* Fishman-homepages. Nauta Dutilh, CoS' legal representatives in this matter, have sent letters again. This time their letter is accompanied by a huge pile of copies of the "US copyright notices". An interesting part of their letter is that they now only object to page 60 - 123 of the Fishman Affidavit, that is, to the parts taken from OT1-OTVII. Seeing that they do *not* protest against OTVIII, the Dutch branch of CoS apparently confirms to Cooley's statement that OTVIII is a forgery. While all this legalese was going on, a CoS-guy from California was flown in last week - Allan Cartwright. Anybody heard of him? Cartwright has been heard to say that he's here 'to fix this thing'. For the past few days, he's been busying himself calling providers and trying to have a meeting with the participating member of parliament, Oussama Cherribi (who graciously allowed him to have a short conversation with his personal assistent, who told him Cherribi wouldn't comply). Cartwright is obviously trying to wear people & providers down, hoping that some will give up. All phone-conversations are more or less along these lines: Cartwright: 'These pages are a copyright infringement. You must remove them and cancel the accounts of these infringers.' Provider X: 'We never remove our users' homepages. Please file a complaint with the user you mentioned. No, of course we won't give you his or her name and adress; we'll only do so by court order.' Cartwright: 'But our lawyers...." Provider X: 'Please adress yourself to *our* lawyer.' Cartwright: 'But...' Provider X: 'No comment.' Cherribi and I are still the only people who have received letters from Nauta Dutilh. We are therefore eligible for a lawsuit, and easier targets than providers (no hassle involved about whose resposibility homepages are etc.) Cartwright has allegedly stated that he needs to be back (i.e. return to California) next week. We are still wondering whether they'll see things through. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUBMISJaeTGtrn6kuLFAQG5qgP+NfUmNkAnCnkEbc4SoEaOOEXj62tz4TzB g8b6CZYs90Mwk6zQOsqsYynWurY1TOP0tvQ7W04SWXgsOusspDPXG6tQNrZE5INM +sGwJWEs3oYWL+gmB3Zxrv39mzFc14U5tAip7ZUzh/M8XPJz/JKugJFsUcIFux30 Ak2GzoNzKoM= =hsS9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- groet, Karin Spaink - I write, therefore I am: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink

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