Since some of the materials which describe the $cientology cult could be
considered to be copywritten materials, I have censored myself and The
Skeptic Tank by deleting any and all possible text files which describes
the cult's hidden mythologies. I have elected to quote just a bit of the
questionable text according to the "Fair Use" legal findings afforded to
those who report. - Fredric L. Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 09/Sep/95
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From: wbarwell@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (William Barwell)
Subject: Pope's challenge to CoS again! was Re: *Handling* a newsgroup
Date: 7 Jul 1995 14:25:40 -0500
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References: <firstname.lastname@example.org> <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> <email@example.com>
In article <firstname.lastname@example.org>,
Chris Miller wrote:
>email@example.com (Pim van Meurs) wrote:
>The problem you are running into Pim is that there are about 28
>fanatics posting on this newsgroup who seem to have tons of time to
>waste digging up bits and pieces of innuendo, partial information,
>etc, and post it up here, while there are really no Scientologists are
>willing to waste their time to go through each of the lies and dig up
>the counter documents.
There ARE NO counter documents. Simply teh truths that make YOU grind
YOUR teeth and spew lies and slanders. Which is ALL you have ever done
here, Stupid Clam-wretch.
And once again, note that over 300 people last month accounted for 50% of
That a mere 28 people can show your cult for the loony lie cult it is
without your being able to show any facts to counter us
proves we are right and you are silly beyond comprehension.
Tough world, ain't it?
And it's a gonna get worse.
Cause we are accumalating facts every day while your cult's lies get mor
exposed and your spam, slander and harrass tactics become obvious day by day.
There are only a 2-3 Scientologists even
>posting on this group and those only for a few minutes a day. If you
Another lie! We have had some great times seeing how much time people
like Woody waste here spamming. A few minutes my bloody ass!
Another idiotic lie from Chris.
>really want to see the documented facts they are available and you
>only need to contact directly someone from the Church.
OK. Here's achallenge.
Again and again, you clamheads have whined, our cult is expanding, our
cult is expanding, DON"T LAUGH DAMN YOU!
But you have not managed to supply and documentation of this claim at all
despite requests for same again and again and again by sniggering clam
wranglers like us who know full well it is a lie.
So once again, my challenge to your silly clam cult.
Send an official cult spokes-wretch to ARS so we can beep his nose.
I have asked many times that CoS send an offical Scientology spokesman
here but have been ignored in my challenge except for Andy Milne,
who refused to answer questions, just to try to handle certain circumscribed
criticisms of his cult, (unsuccessfully, he soon fled in defeat and
covered in ignominy).
We know your cult lies. We have seen long lists here of failed and dying
CoS organizations, seen lots of fragmentary internal documentation, such
as Squirelle's dumpster diving treasures that show your cult is static or
shrinking. We have had some admitions from cult members and ex-members
that membership is not that big and we know further more that it has very
high turnover. We know it has a rather small core membership.
We know you do not have 10 or 8 million members and that Jentsche has
admitted that the 8 million is anybody who has ever so much as taken a
stupid 'personality test'.
So send somebody here officially from the clamhead cult to prove to us
that Stupidology is expanding and no tricks, we have seen 'em all and we
have enough to blow obvious lies out of the water in jig-jig fashion.
More succesfully than LRH blew Japanese subs out of the water.
Send 'em in, clamhead. Get them offical docs, Chris.
You and you silly Xenuites have my challenge, again.
McShane, you shirker, you lazy Ronbot!
You gonna let your cult be represented here on teh net by liars and fools
like Woody and Chris?
So come on! Take up my challenge. I will delegate that stak to you,
Chris, since you so deeply care.
It's YOUR cult, you do teh work to save it's reputation, which YOU are
destroying with your slanders, lies and wordgames, and sniveling.
SubGenius Pope Of Houston
Poor little clams! snap! Snap! Snap!
Poor little clams! snap! Snap! Snap!