Message #8830 - CULT_WATCH
Date : 29-Oct-90 19:26
From : Madoc
To : All
Subject : Weirdnet weirdness
Replies : #8503 <--> #8869
This message is in response to the query by Harvey Smith regarding the
recent stories in the news regarding Weirdbase and an alleged
investigation of child pornography, luring of children, sheltering
runaways, and so forth:
Today, on 10/29/90, at 2:30 p.m. MST, I called the St Ann, Mo Police
Department in an effort to get to the root of this story. I spoke with a
city employee named "Mary" who refused to give me her last name, as a
matter of policy. She informed me what has been going on.
First, the policeman's name is Sergeant Mantle, not Huddle, as stated by
Second, the report that he gave to the news was of an advisory nature
only! There is no criminal investigation going on at this time, and none
is anticipated. There is no violation of law that the police in St Ann
are aware of concerning Weirdbase or any other bbs.
What Sergeant Mantle DID say is that parents should be aware that many
local (to Missouri) bulletin boards are available to children, and that
many of them offer "adult entertainment and information." He also cited
Weirdbase and "Pagan-Net" (?) as examples of cult-oriented bulletin
boards that parents should be aware of. He further stated that there
have been bulletin boards which have been busted for sheltering
runaways, enticing minors, and etc. His specific citation was NMBLA, the
National Man-Boy Love Association, a group of pedophiles who are known
to operate an underground computer network to exchange specific
information on how to lure children, how to photograph children
incognito, how to teach children to enjoy sex, and so on. He did NOT
state that Weirdbase was involved with NMBLA in *ANY* way (it isn't).
Finally, he told parents to be aware that some bulletin boards charge
money or exhort users to send donations in, which parents might not
be aware of Junior using Daddy's credit card to sign up online.
The phone number for the St Ann Police Department is 314-427-8000.
Sergeant Mantle was unavailable for comment when I called, but Mary told
me that he would return calls from any interested party. Since I did not
get this information straight from Sergeant Mantle, I suggest that
anyone who wants the skinny call him and ask.
As an aside: Rowan, do you have any information on Sergeant Mantle? It
certainly sounds as if he is anti-Wiccan, and using his position of
authority to spread anti-Wiccan rhetoric of one kind or another. He has
been seriously misquoted, but it sounded, talking to Mary, like they are
pretty anti-pagan. Might bear further investigation.
One last comment: I've seen a lot of information being bandied about on
this subject: Christians gloating (we finally got one of 'em!) and
Wiccans knee-jerking (NO! Brad Hicks would NEVER do those things, and
besides, he isn't even a Wiccan!) all of which looks bad to everyone
concerned and proves nothing. I know that some of us are on limited
funds, but how much does it cost to find out the truth before either
denouncing or denying anything? I spent 50 cents to call long-distance
information, and maybe two bucks to talk for 5 minutes to Mary. This is
somehow difficult? Oi, vey!
Pax to all and to all a Good Night!