To: Subject: Typical nut stuff.... Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996

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From: James Randi --- Wizard To: Subject: Typical nut stuff.... Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 04:42:55 -0400 And you thought that I got dull mail....! This arrived this morning. What a way to start the day. Will these nuits ever go away? This is a perfect example of a faulty argument that goes in circles and proves itself by what it is trying to establish. Read this only if you're in need of a cathartic.... ....................................................................... First, I appreciate what you are doing. I am a fellow Canadian like yourself interested in the supernatural. I take a Christian Fundamentalist view with the Bible as my guide to the Supernatural. I am a strong adherent to the belief in demonic possession. Biblically, as you are well aware of no doubt, the belief is that the earth is infested with numerous superintelligent and superpowerful invisible entities intent on undermining the will of a Heavenly loving God. Their goals include to remain invisible and at the same time in their cunningness enforce the belief that they do not exist. What can be more powerful than one army (humans) not knowing that the other army (demonic forces) exist? They will be completely unprepared for such attacks and even attribute such attacks to other causes. They may appear at times to lead others astray. For example at the parapsychological institutes there is reported evidences (scientific) of supernatural powers such as ESP. However, when James Randi comes along these demons will not exhibit their powers under conditions which would cause wide spread publicity. I am very confident that these super demonic forces would never manifest themselves to expose their powers to widespread publicity. What this would mean is that people would come to accept from a scientific perspective - demons......and if there are demons there must be a God...and if there is a God we better seek him because we may be going to hell. Demons don't want this they want all of us going to hell. Biblically this is the view at least. So don't worry, your cash is safe. I have seen demonic possession and men thrown twenty feet across the room and have heard of Christian pastors who have experienced levitations of the supposedly demonically possessed. However, if you were an incredibly intelligent entity and knew James Randi was going to expose you would you demonically possess an individual?. Remember, we are talking about superintelligent creatures here who know things days, months if not years ahead of when they occur. If you keep that mindset in place, then you will find alot of things start to make sense. A lot of events which appear mysterious can be explained by scientific research. For example, the Bermuda Triangle which has the same number of "weird" plane crashes as similar areas around the world. We as humans have an intense hunger to believe in other worldly phenomenon-this can be addressed from many perspectives (psychological needs etc.). Here is my challenge. I betcha don't take it because some demonic force will talk you into not doing. However, until you do you will not have investigated every angle and bias would be evident in your scientific methodology. Here it is. Take a drive to your nearest Christian church, I would recommend a Baptist or Evangelical church and talk to a pastor and ask him you want to become a Christian and have a PURE HOLY SUPERNATURAL force (The Holy Spirit) enter your body and become a born-again Christian. Guess What? You will experience a supernatural event. You will experience side effects which will be hard to measure scientifically as this is only a case example but you will know the existence of the Holy Spirit and others will see a difference in you. Your face might change (become more soft and caring) or if you have certain addictions these might disappear or if you cuss alot this will go away etc but God will show you that he does exist. Once again you will come up with a whole host of reasons but think of this as just a few seconds out of your time to disprove the most fundamental truths in the most popular and read book in the history of mankind. Why don't you challenge God to make himself known to you to talk to you personally in only a way he can do becuse if a God exists - a Christian God- he knows you better then you know yourself and will make you stand up and take notice. God Bless. Unsigned. ************************************************** ** PROVIDED FOR YOUR REFERENCE BY THE MODERATOR ** ************************************************** Requests to be added to or deleted from the randi-hotline mailing list, must be sent to the service address: Internet: PLEASE BE PATIENT. All requests are processed before each new mailing to the list and these can be widely spaced. You *will* be added if your request was sent to the correct address. Mail to James Randi can be sent to: Internet: The Amazing One reads all mail and will generally respond eventually. This can change with growing volume, of course... Thanks to Anson Kennedy, back issues of the randi-hotline are now available on the World Wide Web: Back issues of the randi-hotline are also available via anonymous FTP to: USA: directory: /pub/an/anson/Mailing_Lists/geller-hotline directory: /Randi Please try first, since is very busy. EUROPE: directory: /pub/Randi Our gratitude goes to Anson Kennedy and Massimo Macucci for providing the ftp sites at netcom and, respectively. Randi also has a web page - check it out at


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