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The Issues Forum Subjects Menu Subject (# msgs) Section 10 - Paranormal Issues 1 Dale Wedge photo op (7) 2 Gulf Breeze on TV (9) 3 meier file (2) 4 Ufo Artifacts (3) 5 Bermuda Triangle connect (2) 6 LIVE UFO SHOW (2) 7 IMPLANTS (6) 8 "UFO Coverup" TV program (2) 9 UFO Cover Up Live (4) 10 UFO : COVERUP LIVE (1) 11 MEIER.TXT (1) 12 UFO Cover Up Live (1) 13 UFO Cover-up Live (1) 14 Upload Question (2) 15 Lear/Cooper (3) 16 Paranormal (1) Enter choice(s) !15 #: 153652 S10/Paranormal Issues 14-Oct-88 04:14:38 Sb: #Lear/Cooper Fm: Michael Rugg 70511,17 To: Jim Speiser Jim... I have been following the threads on Paranet Alpha and was particularly interested in the comments by John Lear and Bill Cooper, both claiming to have "inside Information" on the coverup. Lear is of course well known for his controversial theories, and Cooper had begun adding additional info. including a warning about the new Project Blue Book! These threads became rife with epithets and name-calling, yet Lear & Cooper seemed to hold up under the pressure. Next thing I see is that Cooper has been kicked off... is there any chance that you could share any details on why you consider him a liar? I must confess he had me fooled, and Lear said he had almost forsaken Paranet entirely due to constant derision by skeptics until the corroborating remarks of Cooper appeared on the board! I'm all for truth as you are, and I'm also for freedom of speech where honest research and hypotheses are concerned. I know you're swamped with input etc.and just hope you can clear this up a bit. Any further details would be greatly appreciated. *** There are replies: 153705, 153706 Press for next or type CHOICES ! #: 153705 S10/Paranormal Issues 14-Oct-88 12:59:09 Sb: #153652-Lear/Cooper Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424 To: Michael Rugg 70511,17 Michael: As you know, I had posted a general notice on ParaNet Alpha to the effect that anyone knowingly posting false or misleading information regarding government involvement in UFO investigation, or any other paranormal field, would be given the boot. I've done it before, and I'll continue to do it. I didn't want anyone to get the impression that I was singling out Cooper. I ixnayed a guy named Lemming for the same thing over a year ago. Before he began his public posting of controversial files, Cooper had been privately sending me files containing much the same information -- names of black projects and their stated goals. Some of those project names we had heard before: MJ-12, Aquarius, Sigma, Snowbird, etc. Some were new: Plato, Excalibur, etc. I was told to forward the information to researcher Stan Friedman for verification, which I did. I also made it available to several other sources whom I knew to have very high security clearances within the intelligence community, and who counted themselves UFO believers. I believed Cooper's information was 90% regurgitation of what was known publicly, and 10% embellishment, some of which was inspired by Lear's information, some inspired by information from another bogus "insider" named Jeff Felix. Stan Friedman was unable to substantiate any of Cooper's claims, and my intelligence sources actually had a good laugh over it. These sources will remain anonymous, despite any protests from Cooper. He has accused the government in complicity with an alien takeover plot, and refuses to name his sources; two can play that game. Press for next or type CHOICES ! #: 153706 S10/Paranormal Issues 14-Oct-88 12:59:53 Sb: #153652-Lear/Cooper Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424 To: Michael Rugg 70511,17 The reason I did not take the same action with John Lear is this: John has continually stated that his information is nothing more than an hypothesis, based on information from "confidential informants" and other sources such as "UFO CRASH AT AZTEC." Wild as his story is, none of it can be directly contradicted by the public record because there IS no public record. Cooper, on the other hand, strongly implied that he had direct knowledge that his information was correct, based on his memory of actually having seen government documents. He further implied that he was getting much of his info from an MJ-12 insider, and stated several times that his life was imperiled by passing it on. His info was full of internal inconsistencies; some of it could be directly contradicted by known intelligence procedures; and the inability of Stan Friedman, who is known to be in contact with people claiming to be MJ-12 insiders, to verify Cooper's info, all these factors led to my decision. I've worked for two and a half years to build ParaNet's credibility as a source of paranormal information, and I saw that work crumbling under a mountain of self-aggrandizing messages and cloak-and-dagger files, and most dangerous of all, many people were coming to associate ParaNet EXCLUSIVELY with this sort of activity. While we pride ourselves on having the inside story, brother, that ain't it. Hope this makes it clearer. Jim Press for next or type CHOICES ! The Issues Forum Subjects Menu Subject (# msgs) Section 10 - Paranormal Issues 1 Dale Wedge photo op (7) 2 Gulf Breeze on TV (9) 3 meier file (2) 4 Ufo Artifacts (3) 5 Bermuda Triangle connect (2) 6 LIVE UFO SHOW (2) 7 IMPLANTS (6) 8 "UFO Coverup" TV program (2) 9 UFO Cover Up Live (4) 10 UFO : COVERUP LIVE (1) 11 MEIER.TXT (1) 12 UFO Cover Up Live (1) 13 UFO Cover-up Live (1) 14 Upload Question (2) 15 Lear/Cooper (3) 16 Paranormal (1) Enter choice(s) !

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