By: J.J. Hitt
To: Andrew Conner
Re: Re: Morality
AC> The Items that JJ truly enjoys. hee hee hee (Joke)
JH> meat, white bread, wine, sexual excess, tobacco, spices, coffee,
JH> cream, molasses, honey, uncleanliness, warm food, fish, beer,
JH> distilled liquor, masturbation, mustard, tea, butter, soup, sugar,
JH> stuffy rooms and sedentary habits.
Not true. I've never cared for stuffy rooms.
AC> How would you explain section 87 D&C
The Civil War thing?
With the greatest of pleasure.....
FALSE PROPHESY NUMBER 13 ... December 25, 1832. DOCTRINE AND
COVENANTS, Section 87:1-8.
(1) Verily, thus saith the Lord concerning the wars that will shortly
come to pass, beginning at the rebellion of South Carolina, which will
eventually terminate in the death and misery of many souls;
(2) And the time will come that war will be poured out upon all
nations, beginning at this place.
(3) For behold, the Southern States shall be divided against the
Northern States, and the Southern States will call on other nations,
even the nation of Great Britain, as it is called, and they shall also
call on other nations, in order to defend themselves against other
nations; and then war shall be poured out upon all nations.
(4) And it shall come to pass after many days, slaves shall rise up
against their masters, who shall be marshalled and disciplined for war.
(5) And it shall come to pass also that the remnants who are left of
the land will marshal themselves, and shall become exceedingly angry
and shall vex the gentiles with a sore vexation.
(6) And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the
earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the
thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the
inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation,
and chastening hand of an Almighty God until the consumption decreed
hath made a full end of all nations.
(7) That the cry of the saints, and of the blood of the saints, shall
cease to come up into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth, from the earth
to be avenged of their enemies.
(8) Wherefore, stand ye in holy places, and be not moved, until the day
of the Lord come; for behold it cometh quickly, saith the Lord. Amen.
Joseph Smith received the above revelation on Christmas day, 1832.
History records that the State of South Carolina was already in a state
of rebellion at that time. It's not much to prophesy about something
that is already happening. South Carolina, in it's Ordinance of
Nulification, had already threatened to leave the Union in the month
BEFORE Smith's Prophecy. In fact, South Carolina had been a royal pain
in the ass since Dec 19, 1928 (four years before the prophecy) when
they declared the right of state nulification of federal laws.
Mormons usually refer to the "Civil War" as one of the prophecies that
has been fulfilled, however, upon close examination it becomes very
clear that it is a failure. There are 20 different elements of this
prophecy. All 20 elements would have to come to pass in order for this
prophecy to be fulfilled.
History records that the Civil War did not start until April 12, 1861,
(more than 28 years later, not "shortly") when Southern artillery
shelled Fort Sumter in the harbor of Charleston, South Carolina. It
ended four years later on April 9, 1865. The Civil War did not result
in war being poured out upon all nations (verse 3). It also did not
bring about "...a full end of all nations."
Also conspicously missing are the earthquakes and "feirce and vivid
lightning". Can you name a single earthquake that had an effect on the
outcome of the Civil War?
It is also interesting to note that the Civil War prophecy was not
published during Joseph Smith's lifetime. It was not printed until
1851 (19 years after Joseph Smith received it).