By: Sue Armstrong
To: Steve Wallis
Re: Shearing all the Sheep
And Brave Sir Steve ran away, screaming "g'day"!
SW> Sue, im not the one playing-im not into games. As for your
Perhaps you should. They can be mind-expanding - something you're
in dire need of.
SW> comment on only children believing in fairy tales about talking
SW> snakes,zombies,and imaginary superfriends-It says in the Bible that
SW> unless one becomes like a little child, he shall in no wise enter the
So the term "kiddie" fits you. So you want to waste life going
through through it like a 4-year old? Tsk. You'll be the one
missing out - not those of us who prefer more adult pursuits.
SW> kingdom of heaven. What proof do you need Sue? Have you ever
Something OUTSIDE the bible. Some indepenent physical evidence
would be nice. But of course, you and your ilk can't provide that,
SW> read the parable of the rich man and Lazerus? When they died, the rich
SW> man wanted to go back to tell his family the truth, but he got the
SW> answer "there's an impassible gulf," and "that they have the Bible-its
SW> enough." God gave His Word-the Bible. Its how one grows to
And Krshna gave HIS word - the Bhagavad-Gita. And the Sumerian gods
gave their word in the Upanishads. And the activities of the Greek
gods are clearly told in the Iliad and the Odyssey.
SW> maturity in the Faith. ive read all kinds of books Sue. I wasnt always
SW> a born again Christian either. In fact-up until about 5 years ago-I
SW> was heavily into the new age movement. So I know where your at with
SW> all this. But I decided to leave the "fairy tales" behind and worship
SW> the Lord Jesus Christ. As for me wanting to be like "my dead
You traded in one set of fairy tales for another. Not much of an
SW> pal"-I really dont know what you mean. It says in the Bible that "It
SW> is no longer I who live but Christ who lives in me." Christ died to
Is he wearing a condom, at least? Didn't know you were into
necrophilia. You really ARE one sick puppy.
SW> pay the price for mans sinful ways. He rose from the grave on the
SW> third day and is now seated at the right hand of the Father in heaven.
Got any EVIDENCE of that? Got any evidence that dead men get up and
walk? Do you believe in vampires and zombies too? Got any evidence
that your god exists to the exclusion of all others?
SW> It says in the Bible "And having spoiled principalities and powers, He
SW> made a show of them openly,triumphing over them in it." Again it says
SW> "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of the flesh and blood,
SW> He also likewise took part of the same; that through death, He might
So he and the kiddies he hung around with are cannibals? Are you a
SW> destroy him that had the power of death, that is the devil; and
Got any evidence of "devils"?
SW> deliver them who through fear of death were all their liftime subject
"Fear of death" is a natural response. It's what keeps living
things from deliberately walking into situations that get them
killed. People and animals who deliberately and repeatedly put
themselves into dangerous situations are rightly considered to be
mentally ill. So, too, are people who just can't wait to die.
SW> to baondage." It also says "Behold I give unto power to tread on
SW> serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy and nothing
SW> shall by anymeans hurt you." It was nescessary that Christ
OK. We'll get you some serpents and scorpions. Perhaps you'd also
like to take the Rudzinski Mark 16:18 test. If you drink the
beverage he (or someone willing to take his place) gives you and you
survive, you'll likely win a lot of converts here on this echo -
including myself. So, are you willing to drink the poison cocktail?
According to Mark 16:18, you won't be hurt - if you're truly
SW> should die to pay the price for our sinful ways; and to bring
SW> judgement to the god of this world. It says in the Bible "And angels
Got any evidence of these men with wings? Don't they strike you as
being ridiculously close to myths about men with horse's bodies,
lions with wings, leprechauns, and fairies?
SW> who kept not their own domain but abandoned their poroper abode, He
SW> has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the jugdment of the great
And what day might that be? Got it marked on your calendar?
SW> day." As for me being in this world-Im only here for as long as
SW> The Lord God Almighty permits. But the hour is here, even at the door.
So you think you're just a puppet on a string. Cut the ropes,
Pinnochio, and take charge of your own destiny. Or are you too
scared to? I think you are. You admitted you were a crystal-weenie
before you turned into a fundy-weenie - not much of a big difference
between the two, really. In both cases, you believe you're nothing
more than a leashed dog, under stupournatural control.
SW> Also-how could you say that I threatened you? Prayer is about
When a Christian says "I'll pray for you", it's a threat to sic his
imaginary god on others, in hopes that said god will interfere with
that person's life without that person's consent. Fortunately for
us, your YHWH doesn't exist.
SW> love-not hate. It says in the Bible that the prayers of the righteous
Then you won't mind if I have Gwenny sacrifice that horse for you to
her gods, eh?
SW> availeth much. As for "evidence"-you have access to a Bible,
SW> and a mouth to pray with. You have everything you need to get your
SW> "evidence". But how do you expect to find if you dont look? Im
I have my eyes, my ears, my mind (something you don't have - a
mind), and my other senses. Yet nothing available to these senses
has ever pointed directly and unambiguously to your precious god,
which exists only in your limited imagination.
SW> not your enemy Sue. Jesus Christ said "Behold I stanmd at the door and
SW> knock, if any man hears and opens up the door i will go and sup with
Well, I haven't heard anyone knocking at MY front door. And I don't
mean some silly metaphysical door either - tell him to show up and
physically knock on my REAL front door. Bet he won't do it - I give
both YHWH and Jesus a week to show up corporeally at my apt door.
Since they're all-powerful, they should be able to get past security
in the lobby.
Nope. Not here yet. Tell 'em they can also phone me if they don't
care for tea. They should have the number.
"Immortality isn't about living forever - it's about making the
most of the time ye do have."
... My god _is_ real! I carved him myself!