Re: Origins of Fundamentalism To: Andrew Cummins Mike Ringgold Lee Grimsley William Morgan

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Re: Origins of Fundamentalism To: Andrew Cummins Mike Ringgold Lee Grimsley William Morgan Christianity is an amalgam of pagan religions, picking the most successful features from each. =-=-=-= As to the early writers and the question of myth consider the following; Adonis born pre 2000 BC of virgin Astarte, for whom the spring festival of rebirth, Eastros was named, called both God the Father and Son, Crucified to save mankind and then resurrected. Horus born 1550 BC of virgin Isis (Egyptian name for Astarte) received gifts from 3 kings, was crucified on cross, many other similarities to Jesus story. Krishna born 1200 BC of virgin Devake, (angelic voice announced his birth to her) in a cave, (early christian writings claimed Jesus born in cave, not manger) heralded by a bright star, while foster father in city to pay taxes, evil king Kansa tried to kill savior by ordering slaughter of all male children, visited by wise men with gifts, many sayings and teachings similar or identical to Jesus' teachings, performed many miracles and was crucified. Indra born 725 BC of virgin, walked on water, other miracles, similar teachings, crucified-nailed to cross. Buddha born of virgin Maya, via descent of Holy Ghost upon her, performed miracles, was crucified, went to Hades for 3 days, then ascended to Heaven. Mithra born of virgin 600 BC, Dec 25, born in a cave, magi brought gifts, shepherds worshipped, had 12 disciples, died on cross to atone for mankind's sins, ascended to heaven at spring equinox (Eastros). Held "last supper with his 12, celebrated a type of Eucharist with wafers marked with a cross. Quirinius, born of a virgin in 506 BC, crucified by King Amulius, whole earth covered in darkness, other parallels. Attis, born of virgin Nana 200 BC, hanged on tree, resurrected, called father god, died as atonement of sins, followers celebrated his resurrection on Eastros by parading in streets carrying small decorated pine trees and exchanging gifts. (Attismas trees?) There are 20 crucified savior/god/resurection myths from the Middle East which predate Jesus and all incorporate several similarities found in the story of Jesus. As you can see, early christians incorporated the most interesting features of the above EARLIER savior-gods into a story remarkably like the one for Jesus and even appropriated the pagan holidays and rituals. No requirement for a role model, either. The name Jesus Christ MEANS sun-savior. Jesus is from Hebrew "Yeshua," savior, and Christ may be traced to the Chaldean "chris"=sun. The story of Christ's birth in the book of Luke is lifted from Chaldean astrology. The three wise men are the stars of Orion's belt, which rise in the east at sunset on the winter solstice. They point to the spot on the horizon where Sirius, the brightest star of all the "host of heaven" rises two hours later, and where the reborn sun rises the following morning. Other characters in the winter sky include the animals in the stable, Aries& Taurus, and the Virgin Virgo which rises at midnight, bringing forth the reborn sun. Barbara Walker's "Woman's Encyclopedia of myths and Secrets" thoroughly documents the details of pre-Christian sun-saviors that [were mentioned]. And Abelard Reuchlin's "True Authorship of the New Testament" proposes the theory that the Christ myth was assembled by Arius Calpurnius Piso, in order to disrupt and confuse the Jewish rabbis resisting roman authority. As you can see, there seems to be some tangible and credible support for some rather heretical (to Christians) ideas in this area. To suggest that none of these ideas was known to the writers of the Gospels is quite absurd given the time and place in which they were written. It just seems like too much of a coincidence to me that these ideas were so carefully mirrored in the story of Jesus. I picked this up out of the docs for a program called "Pagan Daybook" by Alchemy Mindworks. (the same guys who made Graphics Worshop- I can't believe they would touch this!) This might be of interest to you all. (btw, under "December 25," it's listed as the day of the sun. Guess who's there? Apollo, Helios, and _MITHRA_) [begin] The Pagan Daybook for DOS by Alchemy Mindworks Inc. [...] INTRODUCTION It might well be asked what relevance the festival of Fortuna or the months of the goddess have to a world of personal computers. They have none, of course. Fortunately, this isn't a world of personal computers. It's a world of people, and our calendars date back to before January 1, 1970. The holidays and festivals we commonly recognize are for the most part judeo-christian. However, the early christians who devised them did so to a large extent through expediency, for there was already a long list of observances which were popularly celebrated, and a lot of old gods to dedicate the days of the year to. As such, Easter is really the feast of the Celtic goddess Eostre. Christmas, perhaps the most celebrated of christian festivals, was strategically located four days after the winter solstice. In fact, what evidence there is for ascribing a birthday to Christ puts it somewhere in the middle of January. The Pagan Daybook is a small DOS application which will avail you of a very different calendar. It will tell you what each day meant before they became encumbered with saints or marked merely as bank holidays and long weekends. As a final note, while most of these festivals date back to medieval times or earlier, the pagan calendar is far from being archaic. History is written by the winners, and the christian domination of Europe and later of North America has seen predominantly christian cultures in the western world. Recognition and worship of the old gods didn't vanish with the coming of the christians, however. Fertility magic, wicca and the rites that medieval christians were to call witchcraft are still followed, although as a rule not by stockbrokers and corporate lawyers. [...] ABOUT THE DATES The festivals and other occurrences in the Pagan Daybook are a fusion of numerous traditions. They include Celtic, Roman and Norse feasts, and quite a few other dates which have traditionally been observed somewhere in Europe at some time in the past. Not all of these dates were the occasion for elaborate festivities. Especially in the Roman calendar, which seems to be bursting with feasts and celebrations, many of the days of note were only significant in passing, or to a select group of people. Some of the dates are a bit contentious... you may find that you disagree with their precise location in our contemporary calendar. As is common in dealing with historical references, various sources frequently offer various dates for things. This is often complicated by how calendars were reckoned in ancient times. Because ancient calendars slipped... that is, they tended to gain or lose days due to their creators not knowing precisely how long a year takes... we are often confronted with a particular observance appearing at two times during a year, depending on how a year is counted. Someone using the Julian calendar a few dozen years after its instigation, for slipped fairly badly... might work out the day for a particular festival either by counting from the start of the calendar year, which slipped, or by counting from the most recent equinox or solstice, which did not slip. Except in a few cases, the Pagan Daybook's calendar has omitted christian festivals. There are a number of reasons for this, not the least of which is that this is a pagan daybook. Practicality intervenes as well... according to Audrey Butler's Dictionary of Dates, there's at least one christian festival on almost every day of the year. Finally, research into the saints for whom these days are named suggests that most of them were either canonized for having suffered some barbaric demise... hardly a cheery thought to start the day with... or through medieval papal politics, having been absolute scoundrels when they were alive. The contemporary church has actually de-canonized a few of the really nasty ones. [...] The Pagan Book of Days, by Nigel Pennick, published by Destiny Books, ISBN 0-89281-369-5. This book formed a lot of the basic structure for the Pagan Daybook application. Ye Gods!, by Anne S. Baumgartner, published by Lyle Stuart Inc, ISBN 0-8184-0349-7. This is a dictionary of just about every deity ever to seduce a mortal or hurl a lightning bolt. It's an enormously fun book, well written and engaging. Who's Who in the Ancient World, by Betty Radice, published by Penguin, ISBN 0-14-051055-9. This is a very good and detailed listing of ancient figures, both real and mythological... and the ones who couldn't make up their minds. Everyman's Dictionary of Dates, revised by Audrey Butler, published by J. M. Dent and Sons. This is a list of dates of significance throughout history, as well as several fairly useful traditional calendars. The World, The Flesh, The Devil, by Eric Ericson, ISBN 0-8317- 9512-3. This is a biographical dictionary of witches throughout history. It's an interesting overview of historical pagan beliefs, if a bit harrowing in places. [...] Coven, published by Ballantine Books, ISBN 0-345-35750-7. Coven is a story about witchcraft in contemporary Wales. At present it's fairly difficult to locate. The Order, published by Jam Ink Publishing, ISBN 1-895268-02-8. The Order is set in the Scottish highlands, in a decaying castle, in the winter of 1882. It's the story of a young woman who finds herself in the midst of a secret society whose members appear to be killing each other. The secret society dates back to crusader times... the mystery behind it dates back considerably further. [...] Oh yes, should you fail to support this program and continue to use it, a leather winged demon of the night will tear itself, shrieking blood and fury, from the endless caverns of the nether world, hurl itself into the darkness with a thirst for blood on its slavering fangs and search the very threads of time for the throbbing of your heartbeat. Just thought you'd want to know that. [...] That's it... [end] Enjoy, pagan witches and vile atheists! (btw, I got this on Nightowl 12, (in the miscellaneous section) so if your sysop has it, you might want to pick it up and see what pagan holiday was there before YOUR favorite Christian holiday!) regards, csf Here's some more information on Easter that I picked up from the calendar, not the text file. Thank me thrice, as I looked it up, copied it to paper, and typed it out. [begin] Easter Easter is the festival of the Anglo-Savon goddes of spring, Eostre, or Ostara. Eostre is the protector of fertility and the friend of children. Legend has it that to amuse some children once, she changed a bird into a rabbit, which set about laying eggs for them to find. [end] If I find anything else that so blatantly exposes the origin of "Christian" holidays, I'll get it to you. regards, csf ... I'm not a religious man, I'm a Christian. * [ tag ] *


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