By: Tyler A. Wunder To: Chris Vetter Re: belief In a msg of +lt;Monday May 16 1994+gt;, De

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By: Tyler A. Wunder To: Chris Vetter Re: belief In a msg of , Derek Clayton writes to Chris Vetter: ->>> You produce the least little scrap of evidence that dead men get upa ->>> away and I'll believe. Until then, it's just a ghost story. CV>> Why not look into it yourself, other than the Bible the ressurection CV>> of Christ is one of the most documented incidents in the history CV>> of mankind. Your statement is a little unclear. By "other than the bible, the ressurection [sic] one of the most documented incidents in the history of mankind", are you saying that the bible is one of the most documented incidents of mankind's history, seconded by the resurrection? Or were you saying that other than the biblical sources, the resurrection of Jesus is one of the most documented incidents of mankind's history? Incidentally, Chris, could you please play a small game with me and render an opinion on the following scenario? Thanks. There is a general claim that Bill Svenfield, back in 1805, using the powers of his own mind, caused several people in the town he lived in to burst into flames, all simultaneously. After this, Bill disappeared and was never heard of again. The earliest records of this event are six separate accounts that have been dated at approximately 1835-1870, and were supposedly written by a number of Bill's closest friends, who believed all along in what Bill claimed he was able to do (i.e. use his mind to burn people). There are also a few accounts of this event from actual historians, but none of these date earlier than 1870, and seem to refer only to the accounts written by Bill's close friends, and not to the events themselves. Now, a lot of people are skeptical of the truth of what Bill is claimed to have done. For starters, the six accounts diverge greatly on a lot of details, and relate contradictory details of the story (e.g. who burst into flames, when it happened, what events led up to it). As well, Bill's close friends were highly motivated to corroborate what Bill had done, as they had been supporters of his supposed pyrokinetic abilities all along. What's more, it's entirely likely that these accounts, given the dates they were written and the ages of Bill's friends, were not actually written by Bill's friends. At best, it seems they were passed along by word of mouth and written down at a later date, under the pseudonames of Bill's friends, by people who had later come to believe quite strongly in Bill's supposed powers, but had not actually witnessed the supposed "burnings". It is also claimed that Bill foretold what he was going to do, and this is recorded in the writings of each of the six accounts (remember that none of them date earlier than 1835, some thirty years after the event supposedly occurred). Now, my question for you is, quite simply, does this story sound plausible, given the quality of the supporting evidence? Does the evidence supporting this claim sound sufficient to establish a reasonable belief in the pryokinetic abilities of Bill Svenfield? If not, why not?


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