By: Robert Jackson
To: Jesse Jones
JJ> I have enjoyed watching you all scurry for cover. The favored
JJ> defense for why heathens would celebrate Christmas seems to be that we
JJ> Christians stole it from various pagan traditions. That reminds me of
JJ> an excuse one of my children gave once -- that she stole the candy so
JJ> her sister would not eat it and get a stomach ache.
Wrongo! People only mentioned xian theft from the pagans
because you had the arrogant ethnocentrism to think that
xmas is "Our holy day", the "our" meaning your flavor of
But, since yet another jeezoid believer falls flat on their
face in penning an analogy which is far more apropos of their
own theological failings, might I mention that your candy-
stealing analogy works much better when you put it in the context
that you wonderfully altruistic xians "stole the holiday from
the pagans so they wouldn't have the opportunity to praise Satan"?
As your daughter creatively manufactured knowledge of her sib's
digestive tract, your correligionists seem to have fabricated
a knowledge about what those pagans were "really" worshipping.
As you know full well in the case of your daughter the ulterior
motive was to eat the candy (but I'm not doing this for *me*, you
realize); it would behove you to make a one-to-one mapping
of your analogy as to why xians thought they knew what was best
for others--answer being: we just like to take, and have the
victim be grateful for the theft. That is your wonderful "Gift".
You take, and leave in return the miracle of a victim's happiness
that they've been played for a sucker. I still don't understand
how you people do it. It *must* be a miracle, because I simply
cannot fathom the mechanism. See, when I get ripped off, I tend
to be a tad resentful at the con-man...
JJ> It is in our history, our behavior, our very beings that we see
JJ> the oft-demanded evidence of God. Those who dismiss the existence of
JJ> God, and refuse even to partake in our traditions of worship, cannot
JJ> quite escape their influence on our culture.
So if everyone, atheists and True Believers alike, are ignorant
of the depths of religious influence in their culture, why do
you expect heathens to know how to _not_ celebrate "your" holy
JJ> The inescapable fact is that we need religious experience, and we
No "we" don't. It seems *you* do, but why? Why do you find
it necessary to build your life on thin-air lies when there
is still more physical Universe than you will EVER know in
your own life--why isn't that enough for you, Jesse? Why
can't you be satisfied with a Universe that holds more in it
than you would ever be able to unravel, even if you lived a
Jesse, face up to the fact that when you die, you aren't going
to Heaven--you aren't going to Hell, you will NOT be reunited
with those you've loved and lost, you will NOT meet God, and
you will NOT do anything more than return to the earth. Once
you stop trying to sit around waiting for a better life after
this one and suck the marrow out of the one you have, you'll
probably find that things really won't change much more than
the fact more of your fellow humans will find things worthy
of respect in you. And that can matter a lot to some people.
I suppose that disturbs you that someone tells you they don't
have a soul nor needs one in order to conduct a moral (or at
least honorable) life without daily contemplation of suicide.
For me, the thought of perpetrating evil, or violence against
another person or animal causes nausea in the pit of my gut and
an intense burst of depression--no soul necessary. Just empathy.
And empathy can be achieved with intelligence and an understanding
of one's own emotions.
You seem to find it of dire importance that everyone try to
massage their Magic Chakra or whatever by going to church or
praying or whatever turns you on and makes you think it separates
you from other animals. Oh, you've got a book that tells you that--
it could just as well be Dianetics, you realize? The "soul" is
the biggest of the Big Lies of History. Innocent ignorance of
anatomy let it flourish in the past; aggressive ignorance
perpetuates the myth because SOME people loath their mere
existence and need that placebo to make it through another day.
If you need it, fine. But I'll spit in the face of any fascist
idiot whose personal fantasy includes the megalomania of spewing
jizz from their mental masturbation in my direction, declaring
I simply HAVE to be in their circlejerk, otherwise they'd look
foolish pounding their pud alone in public. Was that a graphic
enough analogy for you--proper use of parallelism? And I will
damn well do what I please on the 25th of December, thank you
very much. (Hint: the word Jesus only comes up on that day if
I happen to be talking to chuckleheads on e-mail.)
JJ> are thus far unable to fashion any valid substitute from our modern
JJ> experience. So we cling to old forms, not quite knowing why.
I don't see much need for religion or ritual--that's just
time better spent elsewhere. It's quite boring to us non-
spiritual heathens to sit around trying to play your game
of cat's cradle without a string.
... The floggings will continue until morale improves.