Ultrasound Daily Digest Fri May 7 0007 Volume 3 Issue 37 Today's Topics Email to Gravis FT

---
Master Index Current Directory Index Go to SkepticTank Go to Human Rights activist Keith Henson Go to Scientology cult

Skeptic Tank!

Ultrasound Daily Digest Fri May 7 00:07 Volume 3: Issue 37 Today's Topics: Email to Gravis FTP Midi sites GMIDI Support Gravis' Sysop is alive... How nice, Gunnar JOHN.SMITH@GRAVIS.COM John Smith and email to gravis... New Version of gusorgan Problems With Star Control II Strike Commander (2 msgs) Ultrasound Daily Digest V3 #36 unsubscribe You are a lucky one Stuart. Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 May 93 11:40:46 From: Simon Whittaker Subject: Email to Gravis Message-ID: <9305061148.aa26876@gate.demon.co.uk> Not only does John Smith never return email messages, the sods at Gravis don't even reply to fax messages from their loyal customers. At least I can slag off Gravis and not worry about getting my bonus software. Simon ===================================================================== Simon Whittaker GST Software PLC Software Engineer Meadow Lane Research and Development St. Ives Huntingdon email : swhittak@gst-soft.demon.co.uk Cambridgshire voice : +44 (0)480 496789 ext 2204 PE17 4LG fax : +44 (0)480 496189 England ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 16:52:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Pawlo P Prawdiuk-1 Subject: FTP Midi sites Message-ID: Host amiga.physik.unizh.ch Location: /pub/aminet/mus DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 1024 Apr 6 03:21 midi Host athene.uni-paderborn.de Location: /news/comp.binaries.amiga/volume90 DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jul 15 1991 midi Location: /news/comp.sources.amiga/volume90 DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jul 15 1991 midi Location: /news/comp.sources.amiga/volume91 DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jul 15 1991 midi Location: /pcsoft2/amiga/aminet/mus DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Mar 31 02:15 midi Location: /pcsoft2/atari/tools/sound DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Feb 12 12:54 midi Host cs.tut.fi Location: /pub/src/openwin/OL-example/ch6 FILE -rwxr-xr-x 16384 Apr 29 1991 midi Host csc2.anu.edu.au Location: /pub/NCSA/outgoing/cwilson DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Apr 17 22:52 midi Host emx.cc.utexas.edu Location: /pub/music DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Mar 27 1990 midi Host ftp.germany.eu.net Location: /newsarchive/comp.sources.amiga/volume91 DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Oct 18 00:00 midi Host ftp.luth.se Location: /pub/amiga/mus DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 1024 Mar 31 00:04 midi Location: /pub/misc DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Feb 6 20:19 midi Host ftp.uni-kl.de Location: /pub/amiga/aminet/mus DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Mar 31 00:06 midi Host ftp.uu.net Location: /usenet/comp.sources.amiga/volume90 DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jul 29 1992 midi Location: /usenet/comp.sources.amiga/volume91 DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jul 29 1992 midi Host ic16.ee.umanitoba.ca Location: /pub/msdos DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Mar 5 1992 midi Host inf.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de Location: /pub/archive/comp.sources/amiga DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Mar 30 11:00 midi Host ipc1.rvs.uni-hannover.de Location: /ftp1/rus/msdos/util DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jul 29 1992 midi Host kth.se Location: /unsupported/src/ASPinfo FILE -rw-r--r-- 319 May 27 1986 midi Host louie.udel.edu Location: /pub DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Apr 26 02:33 midi Location: /pub/midi/software/ibm DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Apr 30 1992 midi Host media-lab.media.mit.edu Location: /music DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Nov 23 20:41 midi Host oes.orst.edu Location: /pub/mirror/amiga.physik.unizh.ch/amiga/mus DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 May 1 05:21 midi Host otax.tky.hut.fi Location: / DIRECTORY drwxrwxrwx 512 Nov 6 14:44 midi Host plaza.aarnet.edu.au Location: /micros/amiga/audio DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Dec 10 09:11 midi Location: /micros/mac/umich/sound DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 1536 Apr 21 08:12 midi Host quepasa.cs.tu-berlin.de Location: /pub/amiga/uni-kl/aminet/mus DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 1024 Apr 6 22:39 midi Host reseq.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de Location: /informatik.public/comp/platforms/amiga/aminet/mus DIRECTORY dr-xr-xr-x 512 Apr 7 04:04 midi Host rs3.hrz.th-darmstadt.de Location: /pub/machines/amiga/aminet/mus DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 1024 May 1 02:20 midi Host saffron.inset.com Location: /pub/sound/samples DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Apr 5 01:34 midi Host sol.cs.ruu.nl Location: /ATARI-ST DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Mar 5 16:32 midi Host src.doc.ic.ac.uk Location: /computing/systems/mac/umich/sound DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jan 3 03:46 midi Location: /usenet/comp.archives DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 May 3 1991 midi Location: /usenet/comp.archives/music DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 May 9 1991 midi Host ucsd.edu Location: / DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jun 7 1991 midi Host uhunix2.uhcc.hawaii.edu Location: /pub/amiga DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jun 9 1991 midi Host ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Location: /amiga/.mirror/mus DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Jan 21 00:29 midi Host walhalla.germany.eu.net Location: /pub/newsarchive/comp.sources.amiga/volume91 DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Mar 31 1991 midi Host wuarchive.wustl.edu Location: /mirrors3/archive.umich.edu/mac/sound DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jan 3 01:42 midi Location: /mirrors4/amiga.physik.unizh.ch/amiga/mus DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Dec 19 08:11 midi Location: /systems/amiga/audio DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Dec 5 15:11 midi Location: /usenet/comp.binaries.amiga/volume90 DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Jun 25 1992 midi Location: /usenet/comp.sources.amiga/volume90 DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Jun 25 1992 midi Location: /usenet/comp.sources.amiga/volume91 DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Jun 25 1992 midi Host xcf.berkeley.edu Location: /misc/netjam/doc DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jun 27 1992 midi Location: /misc/netjam/submissions DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Mar 6 23:00 midi Host zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu Location: /outgoing/cwilson DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Apr 17 06:09 midi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 93 08:31:54 EDT From: lsil!mhost!lsican!michael@fernwood.mpk.ca.us (Michael Smith) Subject: GMIDI Support Message-ID: <9305051231.AA08572@torsys04_7.Canada.lsil.com> Is it possible for games, such as XWing, to use their native General MIDI mode to communicate directly with the GUS? I.e. is their a Midi equivalent to SBOS which traps the Midi port transactions and dumps them to the GUS? It appears that this would be an ideal replacement for SBOS, since many games have MIDI support. Since most musical scores for games are probably developed in the MIDI world, and then translated (read "downgraded") to some Adlib/SB format, using a TSR that would allow support for GMIDI seems to be the ideal way to go until more game manufacturers start supporting the GUS' native mode. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 09:12:00 -0300 (ADT) From: Shadow Of Fear Subject: Gravis' Sysop is alive... Message-ID: /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Directly from his dark office on the top of a dark Tower..... \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ For those who are complaining about John's silence, I've been successful 6 times out of 6 messages. I received a message from him last night so his computer is back on line. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Name: Marc Y. Paulin Address: markus@info.umoncton.ca | | Age: 21 Talk Deamon: @clement.info.umoncton.ca | | Occupation: Student in computer programming | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "Kirsty and Tiffany re-enter the labyrinth, where Tiffany finds the| | puzzle box in its diamond form. Tiffany stand before Leviathan and| | begins to work the box. Channard arrives menaces the girl, but Julia| | appears behind Tiffany, and snatches her away. Channard is distracted by| | a prolongned kiss from Julia, which gives Tiffany time to resume closing| | the Lamen Configuration. Channard realizes too late what is happening,| | and slices Tiffany's hand open with a tentacle blade in an attempt to| | stop her." - HellBound: Hellraiser II - Clive Barker | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 18:50:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Phil Johnson Subject: How nice, Gunnar Message-ID: Yknow, there is a good reason that Mr. Smith cannot answer questions as quickly as you'd like him to: he has a life too. As GUS owners, we have a right to be helped with our problems and have our qustions answered, yes.. but let's at least be fair about it. Mr. Smith is most likely a busy man (I do REMEMBER him saying he was going to be unable to answer MAIL for awhile, CORRECT??) and he does have a job to do. Their job is not only to help the end-users but to also get support from software/hardware manufacturers. Your comment "The customer is always right" is true, to an EXTENT. Why not be patient? I understand that you have written over and over and not gotten a reply...but they have other things to do, too. Not say the customers aren't important, but keeping their company alive is another responsibility. We are not the only ones who make it possible for Gravis employees to have a job -- it is other companies (i.e. Forte) who have helped in making the software.. imagine no Forte.. THEN where would our upgrades be? Don't forget we are not the only power.. I, for one, have had few problems with SBOS, and I have never called for technical help -- I figured it out, and it didn't take me 32.5 hours. I have not had the problems you've had, and I see that you're tired of them. I ask owners to try to be more patient -- better to have quality than quantity of revisions. We are busy, Gravis is busy, Forte is busy... in time, I think we'll see what we want to see. I hope by writing this I haven't started a major crisis. :') *Phil pjohnso2@ub.d.umn.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 93 21:33:09 From: john.smith@gravis.com Subject: JOHN.SMITH@GRAVIS.COM Message-ID: <9305052133.A5830wk@gravis.com> >Date: Tue, 04 May 93 10:38:53 -0400 >From: "It's your hand, Buckaroo" >Subject: Re: John.Smith@gravis.com >Message-ID: <9305041438.AA21595@magick.tay2.dec.com> > Does any body get a responce from John Smith when you send mail asking > about the GUS? I've sent like 5 messages over the last few months and > only got one reply when I first sent him something. >No, I've NEVER gttan a response from john.smith@gravis.com, nor have I >gottena response from postmaster@gravis.com or (I think) >postmaster@whimsey.com which does the mail forwarding for "gravis.com"...In >fact, others within DEC have gotten bounce messages from gravis.com... >Any info would be appreciated, like does john.smith ever answer ANY mail?? >DDA I'm reading all of you loud and clear and have been responding to EVERYONE's messages. And I'm not just saying that. You can email me at sysop@gravis.com, postmaster@gravis.com, tech@gravis.com, or even john.smith@gravis.com. All mail goes directly to me. I usually respond to mail every morning between 8-11am. The only people I am having problems receiving mail from is BNR.COM. I have been getting mail from people at DEC, HP, IBM, CRS and everyone else under the sun. Even got a bunch of mail from some happy GUS owners in what use to be Russia. Hmm..... I wonder if it could be a routing problem with long addresses? TBBS (our BBS software) can only handle up to 60 characters I think. Anyone out there with a REAL long address I could try this out with? If so, EMAIL me at john.smith@gravis.com so we can check it out. PS: The BBS is now back online. We now have 4 modems on 604-431-5927 and 2 more on a mail ONLY server. Our percent busy has dropped from 85% on our old 2 line BBS to 23% on the new system. Wew.. now maybe more of you guys can get on on the first attempt C'ya all in the bit stream. John ------------------------------ Date: 6 May 93 9:30 -0700 From: Thomas Wong Subject: Re: John Smith and email to gravis... Message-ID: <3512*twong@civil.ubc.ca> I'm not sure why others are having so much problem emailing him. Perhaps your email bounced and never reached him. Being the guy who looks after our ftp site, I email John every once in awhile with questions. Mind you, it normally takes a couple of weeks for him to answer cause I imagine he'd be swamped with a world of questions (literally ;) ), but anywhere from a week to 3 weeks, I'd get an answer. At the beginning, I was using the Compuserve accounts for Alan, tech guy, and he took longer and longer to answer as more and more people asked him questions. But John has answered all my questions, from question on files he has on the Gravis BBS, to who I should ask to look into my Ultra Chuck Yeager order (which I did get a long time ago). And yes, I have been using john.smith@gravis.com. Now mind you, I'm not sure if he does get the mailing list, but I know he reads comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard cause he replies to questions there if you read it. They have just moved to a new building so I don't think he will be able to get things going again (set things up) for another week or so. And this new site will provide more phone lines into Gravis BBS. Anyways, here are the email addresses I have.... for Alan, the tech guy, 71333.350@compuserve.com. OR for Chris, the salesguy, yuzik@sfu.ca. OR for John, the Gravis BBS sysop, john.smith@gravis.com Thomas. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 93 12:01:30 CDT From: eason@ncrnd3.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dale Eason) Subject: New Version of gusorgan Message-ID: <9305061701.AA18595@ncrnd3.StPaul.NCR.COM> I have uploaded to epas submit directory a new version of gusorgan. New version of gusorgan ver 2.0 Added mpu401 midi input support. Added pan position to patch config file. Added chromatic scale playing controls for patch audition. Dale Eason ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 16:05:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Go Subject: Problems With Star Control II Message-ID: The Music in SC2 sounds really strange. It doesn't sound like my friends version. The music when orbiting a planet and cruising the solar system is just horroble. I took off the music and left the sound on. Now whenever a sound is played, a faint burst of static is heard. This game was fine before I moved into a new place. I don't run this with SBOS and I run the gus669 player to clear the mem before I play..... Send Help! Brian Go bgo@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca Chemistry at Waterloo Just Remember, Midnight Oil, Concert Hall, April 13, 1993, 10:30pm In my world, there are sorrows. I'd rather drown in happiness... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 16:06:41 EDT From: "The Punisher" Subject: Strike Commander Message-ID: <0096BB67920C3EA0.0001AD39@acad.wit.edu> I was just wondering if anyone else has encountered a problem with Strike Commander. When I turn off the music to try to get the game to run smoother, I get this annoying schreech in my ears. Has this happened to anyone else? BTW is there a patch to use all of the digitized stuff that comes with the speech packet? I don't get any speech when talking to people or anything. It is like the speech packet is not even installed (yes it is). Please E-Mail me directly SOON!! -Chris (colotti@acad.wit.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 93 11:35:13 EDT From: "The Punisher" Subject: Strike Commander Message-ID: <0096BCD3FA8A7E20.0000DEA2@acad.wit.edu> Has anyone else encountered any problems with Strike Commander? For instance when I turn off the music I get an annoying tone in my ears. Has this happened to anyone else? BTW is the only solution to making this game run smoother more memory? -Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 93 23:53:16 CDT From: ddebry@itchy (Dave DeBry) Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V3 #36 Message-ID: <9305070553.AA18219@itchy> Heya, folks. I'm back from my trip to the bay area. Besides telling you that I had a wonderful time seeing an old friend who I miss terribly (sigh :), I will not bore you with the details of the trip. (BTW: Does Diablo Valley College have a net connection?) > Date: Wed, 5 May 1993 12:00:44 +0501 (EDT) > From: Gunnar Swanson > Subject: John.Smith and the no mail blues > > There has been alot of talk about John Smith and others at the > Gravis HQ not returning mail to important questions. I have even sent > mail to specific people at Gravis.com and I get no response. Now I am not > the pushy sort and figure people are busy but after reading all the notes > of others who are experiencing the same problem I felt compelled to write. > > I am mad as hell. > [And he goes on to explain why in infinitely painful detail.] Hey, Gunnar. Chill. Gravis has been moving this past week. Have you ever moved? Just getting the new phone line hooked up and the water, gas, and electricity turned on for a single apartment can be a bureaucratic nightmare for a good deal of time. Now think about moving an entire company. All the phone lines. All the computers. All the networking stuff. All the miscellaneous physical office equipment. All the people. Scary thought, eh? Give them a break... they'll be back soon enough. -- Dave ddebry@ debry@ \ "I am the Ghost of Corn Bran Passed." DeBry dsd. peruvian. | "Don't you mean 'Past'?" es. cs.utah. | "No." com edu / "Ewww." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 93 20:57:05 EST From: shobe@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew Shobe) Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: <9305070157.AA22768@expert.cc.purdue.edu> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 10:11:51 +0501 (EDT) From: Gunnar Swanson Subject: You are a lucky one Stuart. Message-ID: Dear Fellow GUSers, Dear Stuart Yoshida (hope I did not mangle that name ;)) and others. I have not been as lucky as yourself if you have a secret (photos of him with another woman that sort of thing) that gets such a good response rate great tell us. I have a response rate of 3 for 7 if it is that good. I do know that Gravis and Co. have moved but mine and I believe others problems started long before that. I am still waiting for a response on two letters (real ones with an envelope and a stamp) that I sent back in December. I beleive this is a long term customer service failing at Gravis Co. and they need to hear our feedback to improve. I mean really my office deals with the public and we recently moved and were still able to get our customers served and half of our building is STILL (note of bitterness :)) not finished. At my office we remember which side our bread is buttered on. If we forgot we'd all be on the street the next day. As for luck on CompuServe I think that it is great (truly) that you have access and can get through to John Smith. However, most of us who use the Internet do so because we lack the means to use such a service. I would love to have an account with CompuServe but I simply cannot afford it. Well enough of my ranting for one day I'll stop boring you. Serious comments and discussions welcome. Flames, keep'em in the high school locker room. Ralph Nader wanna be Gunnar Swanson gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu end. ------------------------------ End of Ultrasound Daily Digest V3 #37 ************************************* To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP sites: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/msdos/ultrasound Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (UNIX, OS/2, GUS-MIDI, etc.)

---

E-Mail Fredric L. Rice / The Skeptic Tank