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Computer underground Digest Tue Feb 7, 1995 Volume 7 : Issue 10 ISSN 1004-042X Editors: Jim Thomas and Gordon Meyer (TK0JUT2@NIU.BITNET) Archivist: Brendan Kehoe Retiring Shadow Archivist: Stanton McCandlish Shadow-Archivists: Dan Carosone / Paul Southworth Ralph Sims / Jyrki Kuoppala Ian Dickinson Copy Icecreamer: B. Robbins CONTENTS, #7.10 (Tue, Feb 7, 1995) File 1--HoHoCon '94 Report (reprint) File 2--ANNOUNCE: DEFCON ]I[ INFO (fwd) File 3--Cu Digest Header Information (unchanged since 25 Nov 1994) CuD ADMINISTRATIVE, EDITORIAL, AND SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION APPEARS IN THE CONCLUDING FILE AT THE END OF EACH ISSUE. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 06:54:20 -0500 From: grayarea@NETAXS.COM Subject: File 1--HoHoCon '94 Report (reprint) phile cdci212.01 -------------------------------------------------------------------- HoHoCon '94 December 29, 1994 - January 2, 1995 Ramada Inn South, Austin, TX A Review, released to the Net on 1/25/95 By Netta "grayarea" Gilboa I flew to Austin, TX after spending Christmas with some hacker friends. I arrived a day early, unsure if the Con was gonna come off and how many people would show if it did. HoHoCon had almost been cancelled this year after someone called the original hotel and said a bunch of mean, evil hackers were gonna descend on the hotel and that several federal agencies would be sending feds there to monitor it. If you ask me, some kid's mom said he couldn't go so he decided to try to make sure none of us could either. Lame. It also taught me that everyone in this community has enemies. Maybe someone just doesn't like Drunkfux. Supposedly, right after this phone call the hotel got another, this time from Dateline NBC who wanted permission to film the Con. Rumor had it the hotel panicked and cancelled. The truth is that a regular client of theirs offered to pay higher room rates and the hotel stood to make over $20,000 extra by getting rid of us and having them there instead. So they used the phone calls as an excuse. I can only imagine the hassles Drunkfux went through to find another hotel that was empty on New Year's Eve weekend. But Drunkfux came through with flying colors and when I got to the hotel they told me other people had started to arrive. They gave me a list of these people to look at, complete with their real names and room numbers. It's possible they would even have xeroxed the list if I had asked them to. Uncool. Even more uncool, almost shocking, was that the hotel had a clipboard on the counter with people's real names, assigned room number and credit card number complete with expiration date. It was listed in alphabetical order and I was on the top page in the third spot. I freaked. I told the woman behind the counter that she must move the clipboard as some of the people coming specialized in attacking people's credit and that I would surely be a target given my position on the list and my all too well-known real name. She said okay but when I returned my luggage cart, some twenty minutes later, it was still on the counter. I told her again, nastier this time, to move it. An hour later she still had not. I then asked to use a phone and was told there was one in my room and another down the hall. I explained that I wanted to call right from the counter to cancel my credit card and to call the national offices of Ramada Inns to have her fired. In a nasty tone she told me she'd move the clipboard. She did. However, the next day they threw the pages in the trash and, of course, had the clipboard on the counter again with a new list of the people due to check in that day. I argued with them again and they moved it. A few hours later (surprise!) their trash was invaded and they went out and bought two paper shredders. This was a good investment on their part although it's a shame it took us to teach them that. If you intend to stay at a Ramada Inn anywhere in the U.S., I would strongly advise you not to prepay with a credit card. They can't be trusted with your data. We invite readers who may have experienced credit card fraud after staying at Ramada Inns (or other hotels) to contact us. It was a sobering lesson in how vulnerable the average person is in society. I had plans to hook up with Stormbringer and Holy Spirit, two virus writers I love talking to. Stormbringer had recently retired from virus writing after hearing from someone in Singapore who got infected with one of his non-malicious viruses. I had read his retirement text file and was anxious to talk to him about it. He assured me on the phone all was well and they agreed to meet me at Mr. Wasabi for sushi and I ate more sushi than I ever had before in one sitting. Then we walked to a coffee house and they drove me back to my hotel around 1 a.m. I was invited to Novocain and Particle's room so I headed up there and ran into Veggie, Onkel Ditmeyer, Count Zero, Buckaroo, etc. Onkel showed me his way cool laptop and I finally got to see what an IBM demo looks like. These are programs which demonstrate the sound and graphics capabilities of a computer. He copied a few of them on a disk for me along with some electronic magazines I had never seen. Onkel is the author of a well known phreaking program called Bluebeep. We spoke a lot over the weekend and I found him brilliant, honest, charming and not afraid of girls who know way less than him. He was one of the coolest people at HoHoCon this year. At 6 a.m. a few of us went downstairs for free breakfast and the conversation turned to the various women who hang out on #hack. There was some dissing of one girl who has slept her way around the scene and in the past had given a number of hackers herpes without telling them first. Eeks. I tried to get out of the guys I was eating with what she had that I didn't (besides herpes). I message most of her old lovers on IRC but none has ever made a pass at me. We talked about the other girls on IRC, who has slept with whom, and how they got treated afterwards. We talked about why people might have slept with those particular girls at the time they did and I suddenly felt both very lucky and better about myself that the one hacker I had slept with was a decent choice. Quality might beat quantity. To know for sure, I guess I'd have to ask the girls . We picked up a bunch of food that was apparently not included in our free breakfast coupon. The waitress didn't know how to handle it and neither did we. I offered to put the food back and she finally agreed to let us eat it. I suggested they put up a sign to warn others and, of course, they didn't. Later I heard they let us all eat the bacon and other food for the rest of the Con. I never made it back down there again even though for American food it was pretty good. I was pretty tired and so headed off to sleep when we were done chowing down. I woke up Friday afternoon when Particle and Novocain knocked on the door. They had a car and took me to a chinese restaurant nearby with a killer buffet. When we got back there were many people in the lobby listening to a tape of prank phone calls made by Phone Losers of America. I wanted the tape bad as it seemed highly appropriate for us to review. I was promised a copy which materialized in under an hour. W0rd! For all the shit I take for it, there are advantages to being press. I felt pretty comfortable with all of the people I was talking to and since my room was very close to the lobby I invited everyone there and even left the door open for others to enter my room (which almost everyone who passed by did). It was kind of odd where they had situated me. You could watch my door from the counter where people checked in. I had asked for a smoking room but got dealt non-smoking instead. I inquired about changing it and was told some crap about all the rooms being accounted for already. It crossed my mind at the time that maybe some feds had purposely put me there but I discounted my gut feeling and remembered most hackers thought I was too paranoid about things. I told people to go ahead and smoke in my room with no ashtray. They did. All told about 15 people were in there and one of them pulled out a toy to show me. It was a box that hooked up to your telephone which allowed you to change your voice into that of a male, female or child. I had seen these boxes before in catalogs. They sure work great! I made two calls with it, one to a friend and one to my ex-husband. I snickered at how surprised they'd be when they heard my message and later regretted not telling either or them to save it so I could hear it back. Honestly, playing with this legal box was every bit as cool as great drugs or sex. I vowed to buy one. Watch out! Talk turned to dinner and people started to leave my room. Particle was the last one out and he showed me something about how the hotel room locks worked. Hackers spend hours trying to figure out how things work and although I had little interest in the subject it was clear Particle was struck by the techonology and not the idea of breaking into someone's room. I started to organize people who were willing to eat sushi. Just as we were about to leave Particle and Novocain were gathering everyone into a room to tell people to chill their behavior. It later turned out that Particle had played with another lock after I made him stop touching mine. He had the misfortune to be seen by a member of the Austin Police Department who wisely agreed not to arrest him in exchange for Particle's agreeing to talk to people in an attempt to curtail the usual HoHoCon hotel destruction. I should have attended this talk although I had no idea at the time why it was being organized. But I was starving and the people I took to eat sushi were not those who would consider trashing a hotel. Laughing Gas, Thumper27, Slyme, El_Jefe and I checked out Kyoto sushi which was good but expensive for what you got. I spent part of dinner wiping the free space on the hard drive on my laptop. I had never used this feature before, but had been told about it at the con and it sounded like something I should start doing regularly to protect other people's privacy so that erased E-mail and articles were truly erased. It was a good thing I had sushi to eat to keep me busy as it took a good twenty minutes to do on a Pentium laptop with a 500+ meg hard drive. When we got back to the hotel I ran into Drunkfux who had cut his hair and dyed it bright red. I hardly recognized him but it looked great. It was clear by the police presence in the lobby that the Con had officially started. We were told that signs hung on room doors (I had put up a copy of one of the magazine covers with a small piece of scotch tape) would be taken down. This made it much harder for us to find each other (I'd estimate we had 90% of the hotel's rooms) but so it goes. Some people were told specifically that they could not use their modems and for hours on Friday night the phone lines were so busy with modem usage that there was no way to make an outgoing call or to receive an expected incoming one. All sorts of security guards appeared. The ones I spoke with were police officers too. I'd guess there were 1-3 dozen around at all times and apparently hotel personnel were told they were all on duty until we left and none of them were able to go home for the rest of the weekend. I wish I could say this was utterly unwarranted. But some lamer broke the lock on the door to the hotel's phone system. And remember that another person had trashed the hotel's garbage and must have made a mess or been spotted. The hot party that night was in Erik Bloodaxe's room. Loki, Ice-9 and Ophie were staying with him and Loki was in charge of the door. He made sure to keep me out just as he does when he acts like a bully on IRC. I knew in my heart it was Loki's doing not ErikB's, but that didn't stop me from getting majorly upset about it anyway. I went downstairs to be alone and Particle knocked on the door a few minutes later. I gave him a piece of my mind and then some about how shitty some of those in the computer underground are. I went on for at least an hour and drew great comfort from the fact Particle thought I was not crazy and that things are as awful as they seem sometimes. Finally he told me that since I kept claiming to love hackers despite all of the grief, there were dozens of nice ones out there who would be thrilled to talk to me if I'd only leave my room and go try to have a good time. W0rd. I took his advice and had a good time in the lobby with the other rejects from Bloodaxe's party. The conversation was so good it was hard to tear away to go to sleep. I went to my room at 4:30 a.m., got under the covers, thought about sleep for 10 seconds. Then I pulled out my laptop and wrote a speech to deliver to the crowd the next day. The two people I had counted on to wake me up didn't show and it was a stroke of luck that made me jump up at 9:45. The speeches were supposed to start at 10 a.m. and even though they surely wouldn't start till later I was selling magazines and was due there pronto to claim my table. It took a luggage cart to get all those magazines downstairs. I shudder to think what my life will be like when I have 30 issues to lug around instead of six. The folks from Fringeware were selling books and T-shirts and someone else had old Atari game units and cartridges. People came by to say hi and to buy magazines. I plugged my speech and told people not to dare miss it. It was impressive that Drunkfux had gotten so many original speakers on such short notice. They mostly said what the crowd wanted to hear and shared thoughts on digital cash, the regulation of the Internet, recent laws, etc. Damien Thorn showed a video clip to the tune of the current rock hit "21st Century Digital Boy" which had cellular phones, scanners, etc. in it. It's part of an upcoming video that looked awesome. Veggie talked about dealing with the media after an old text file of his was used to harass a BBS sysop who got more than twice Phiber's jail sentence just for having a file around. Someone sent Erik Bloodaxe to talk to me as part of my speech referred to him. It was an uncomfortable talk and I was probably correct in feeling that half the room was watching us and not whoever was speaking. I told him he could pay me back in print or elsewhere but that I was going to go ahead with what I planned to say and he surprised me by saying that what I had written was fine and he even added to it. He also told me that Loki had gotten too drunk and had been a pain in the ass to room with the night before. He assured me that although way too many people had been in his room, and way too many had tried to get in after it was full, it had not been his intention to keep me out. I felt bad that I even cared, and that he knew I cared, and that he and I even had to discuss it. I was unhapy that he had no intention of staying to hear my speech or the fight with Loki that he knew was coming but didn't mention to me. We left things with the fact that we'd go out for dinner or something the next night with Ophie (who also had an early flight) after the bulk of the Con was over. It occured to me then it would never happen because plans are hard to keep at Cons but I mentioned it in my speech anyway. My speech went over very well. It was about what's been going on at Gray Areas since I spoke at HoHoCon last year. It was also about the behavior of certain elements of the community and how that behavior has affected me. And it was a stern warning about some busts that are coming down. I know a few people got the message. I could tell from the gasps and laughter at key points. But perhaps the highlight of the speech was the confrontation between Loki and I when he chose to bully me before anyone else could ask a question. I answered his accusations and managed to do a decent job even with no warning. Whatever he hoped to accomplish clearly wasn't working and from somewhere deep inside of me I found the courage to ask the entire room to vote on whether or not they really never wanted to see me on #hack again. The only vote opposed in a room of about 250-300 people was Loki's. Hours later I regretted not thinking to ask how many people never wanted to see Loki there again. Four people had come up to me and told me they would have voted him out. Loki left the room with his tail between his legs and ran to IRC. By the time I got on hours later word had spread a story that I picked a fight with him and he had won. The proof is in the videotape which will be available soon from Drunkfux. It's highly recommended for both friends and foes of mine. Drunkfux said demand for this portion of his footage was very high. I promised to give him better footage and an even better speech next year. Later Count Zero wrote this about my speech in Cult of the Dead Cow: "Grayarea gets up and begins to read off a pre-prepared speech on her laptop. Her speech is too quick for my alcohol-byproduct-sodden synapses to register accurately. I keep staring at her dress...bright tie-dye...'s actually quite cool. Suddenly, Loki gets up in the audience and the accusations fly back and forth between them. You kicked me off IRC. You called my office at work. You are doing this, you are doing that. Both are getting into this verbal slugfest in a major way. I feel the bad karma in the room hanging heavy like blue-green cigar smoke. "Can't we all just get along??" I yell, but noone seems to hear me. I don't know who is right or wrong (it's probably somewhere in between...the truth's always gray, right?), so I don't hypothesize. All I do know is that I'd never want to piss off Grayarea...she's damn strong on her convictions and won't take shit from anyone. I think she'd look better up there wearing a big ol' leather jacket with studs...terminator style. "One tends to assume that people wearing tie-dye gear are quiet, meek, very soft spoken, non-confrontational is a camoflage that suits her well," I think. Bahaha! I liked your comments, Count Zero. And I did hear you yell that. After the speeches I sold more magazines thanks to Loki who inadvertently made way more people interested in me. Bahahaha! Some of them said they liked or loved my dress, some of them hugged me and some of them signed up for subscriptions and gave me their data. I then headed off for dinner at yet another sushi restaurant. Laughing Gas and Slyme came again along with Mr. Spock who agreed to lose his sushi virginity to me and jokingly said that way he'd get mentioned in my review. I thought he was one of the three kewlest people I hung out with at the Con. I hope I get to spend more time with him at a Con in the future and I'd even be willing to go try his favorite type of food! The sushi place we picked was awesome. I was sorry I hadn't found it sooner. It's almost too bad HoHoCon will be in another city next year. I also wanna mention the elite, Jak_Flack, who drove us to the restaurant when cabs were scarce on New Year's Eve. He didn't want any sushi or any money. He even got lucky and gave a ride to people who probably would have done the same thing for him under the same circumstances. Thanks. After dinner I did what Drunkfux begged us not to do. I spent New Year's Eve on IRC. I messaged Mr. Spock, in fact, who was typing from the other side of the room. I also messaged some hackers I talk to all the time. Some were lonely and glad to see me. I thought a lot about loneliness. Some of us prefer to be with computers than people. Some of us can open up more easily to people on a computer. And some of us need computers around even when we're with other people. I was typing from an account at and there were several people in the room having fun with their "site" as X and Y tried repeatedly (and succeeded) to get root there. I had never seen root before from the position of the person protecting it. I should have paid way more attention but I got too caught up in having conversations. I should also have paid more attention to the people in the room with me. Loq and Fool were there and they seemed really kewl but I got too lost in IRC. Oh well, at least I wasn't hopelessly drunk. And I wasn't kicked or banned once. People were delicate with each other on IRC. They were often drunk, vulnerable and more likely to reveal things when conversing. Those who were on were more than willing to talk to anyone who showed up. People apparently intend to make public the logs. If they include IRC chats it would be very shallow. I will never again take the chance and IRC from a Con again. Although I have mostly come to terms with the fact that I am a semi-public figure and people will always want to see whatever I type on the Net, but it's not fair to expose the words of the people I messaged. I dragged myself off IRC about 4:30 a.m. and went downstairs to clean off one of the beds. Novocain and Particle had checked out of their room and were gonna stay in my room for one night. I was thrilled at the idea of having company. But when the bed was empty it looked tempting and I lay down for the 90 minutes till I was due to meet them at the breakfast buffet. Next thing I knew it was Sunday afternoon. Oops! I wondered where they had slept. Apparently they hadn't wanted to wake me so they slept in another room. I felt bad but at least their stuff had been safe which is all you really care about at a Con. SORRY! Next time, guys, wake me. I stumbled into the lobby and joined the conversations that were going on. A hotel employee asked if we'd mind moving to the conference room and we agreed. We figured the room was bugged just as the hotel phone lines had been. But we weren't talking about anything secret and a few of the hackers answered all of the questions asked by the cop/security guard who hung out for about half of the time we were in there. It was a very fun time there on the floor chatting with Voyager, Ophie, Onkel Ditmeyer, lgas, Deadkat, Drunkfux, etc. There were way more people but I'm drawing a blank on specifically who. I went upstairs to get more magazines and ran into Bruce Sterling. He was growing facial hair and looked great. He said he felt lousy which shows what I know. I hugged him before he said he felt lousy. We talked about the book he is working on. Then Ophie and I went off to be interviewed about female hackers and the treatment of women by hackers. It could have used Cori and Noelle but it made some good points. We came downstairs and I saw Drunkfux at work videotaping an interview with the guys from TNO in Colorado. This was priceless footage of them discussing how a group decides policies and handles politics and how they have applied political thought to hacking. I was sorry I had missed half of it and sorry I had spent so much time socializing with them that it had never occured to me I didn't know much about their group and I should have interviewed them too. I hope Drunkfux includes every word of their interview in the video. Ophie brought up the idea of photos and so I grabbed my camera. Everyone there got into it and I got a whole roll of film of people hugging and kissing me, looking at porn mags with Ophie and generally playing around somehow. They came out great. If you want yours passed around or published, let me know. Until then, they're private. Slyme and I headed back to Mr. Wasabi for dinner but to our surprise it was closed! New Year's day turned out to be a bad day to try to find places open to serve food. We should have stayed at the hotel. We finally ended up in a bar which served food, ordered hot chocolate and consoled ourselves on the lack of sushi. Back at the hotel a bunch of us went room hopping and tried to determine who was left. My flight was at 7 a.m. and I had no intention of going to sleep and taking a chance I would miss it. Several people had flights at 8 and 10 a.m. Others were staying on for 3 more days to get better airfare rates. I heard ErikB had left with Ophie and he told me later they had asked the hotel and had been told I checked out. One room we ended up in had a console copier running. I had heard about them but never seen one and was told it was okay if I photographed it. I went downstairs for my camera. I hadn't been alone once since arriving in Austin. While this wasn't always planned, the thought did occur to me that my room might be watched and that law enforcement might be interested in any of the many people I was seen talking to. I had mentioned a controversial interview we had coming up with ILF and although I thought I was being overly paranoid, I was still nervous I would be questioned about it. But it was 12:30 a.m. or so and I felt too silly asking for someone to run downstairs with me. So I went alone. But as I was closing the door and checking it was locked I saw someone head down the hall towards me and I knew instantly something was about to be up. Hackers are right when they say you can't fully understand this until you have lived it. He asked if I was Netta and I said yes and then he reached towards his pocket. I knew he was going for either a gun or a badge and there was nothing I could do about either. It turned out to be a badge and as he got close enough so that I could see it read "Austin Police Department" I thought to myself "Kewl, it's not the Secret Service." He asked me to accompany him to a room and, holding my camera, I did. He told the two "security guards" that we'd be leaving the door open. I had asked whether he was the guy who had called me last March and he said no that he was his partner. I wondered whether I was under investigation or whether they had no one else to ask for information or whether they just wanted to meet me after talking to me voice. It didn't occur to me to ask. I thought several times about the fact I was supposed to be out with Bloodaxe and Ophie and that if I had made it a point to leave with them this wouldn't be happening. I wondered who else APD had questioned who had not told anyone. I wondered if they had even questioned someone about me. I also feared people would come looking for me and see me in that room and think I was talking to the police voluntarily. That I had sought them out. God forbid they should think I was telling the police about the console copier. The whole thing only took about 8 minutes and the officer asked me nothing I had a problem answering. He treated me with respect and didn't press me to say anything I wasn't comfortable saying. I offered to give him some of my magazines at the end of the conversation and he walked me to my room and was clearly planning to wait outside. I invited him in and he watched me pull issues from three suitcases. It was apparent nothing illegal had gone on in my room. I'd lay odds it was the cleanest room there too. The day before, for example, my trash in the bathroom had been dumped at least three times. None were by me or when I was in the room. The only thing I couldn't answer, and it was simply from nerves, was what I had done on New Year's Eve. The answer came out that I didn't remember and since I stammered it, it must have looked like I had seen or done something I shouldn't have. But all I did was IRC and eat sushi and I do that so often I didn't even remember when asked. New Year's Eve had been almost like any other night. Anyway, I got the console copier photo (hint: I could use a detailed article on how they work to run with it). We then moved on to other rooms and I ran into Drunkfux and Damien Thorn. I did a long video interview with Drunkfux, who would have made an excellent journalist. He resisted the idea of asking me petty questions about who I like and don't like in the scene and who I'd sleep with if I could. I would have answered anything he asked in the spirit of the HoHoCon video tradition, but instead we got into more serious issues and people who think Drunkfux is shallow or a less-than-serious dude due to his IRC reputation will be most surprised. Then Damien did an equally long interview and Drunkfux got eleet footage of me closing my eyes when the talk got too technical. I did almost pass out as it was 3 a.m. or so and I felt really comfortable being with them but I snapped to attention just in the nick of time as Drunkfux had the camera aimed on me and Damien was making a joke. Damien took it in stride but I think it was the first time anyone had ever had the chance to listen to his most eleet technical tips and was bored. I hope he knows I love him, like most hackers, for the person he is and not for the skills or trophies he has. I was transfixed as he told Drunkfux his beginnings in the computer underground and his views on laws, ethics, writing, etc. I just don't lust to know what model of phones he respects most or what gadget he's tested last. Luckily for you, Drunkfux did the interview, not me, and he did ask lots on that sort of stuff. After they were done Damien and I went out to some fast food burger joint. It was dirt cheap and tasted like cardboard. We had a great chat, as usual, and then went to the airport with Slyme who had slept the night away and missed everything. My flight was first and they walked me to the gate and made a fuss over me and it was the perfect ending. I can't believe I now have to wait till June (and go to Georgia, of all places) to see some of you again. Oh well. In the meantime, happy Valentine's Day to you and whoever you netsex and/or fantasize about. Happy April Fool's Day in advance too. Just prank someone else this year, okay? . (Sample issues of Gray Areas are $7.00 each (U.S.) and $10.00 each (foreign) from: Gray Areas, Inc. P.O. Box 808, Broomall, PA 19008. E-mail addresses are: or or PGP key is below. Use it.) -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3 mQCNAi76UiwAAAEEALgwLwtyFrBlzHkfUlc5NIwLrIfbng5OJIG1Qlp1JN5UUaSR EMAu8gDqwOzXVS2TLYqbz5AHYw7zBTuVneYpMH6THv4iYN9iyXMu1LUby54HLbyP vZb61BnF9s4oyyZitGJ8F/IKnqGX5+jE3/6WvcJ0HxDJPL5jEA2uwNFX4WuNAAUR tBZncmF5YXJlYUB3ZWxsLnNmLmNhLnVz =rXPN -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 01:05:37 -0600 (CST) From: David Smith Subject: File 2--ANNOUNCE: DEFCON ]I[ INFO (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- DEF CON III Convention Update #1 (1.xx.95) August 4-6th 1995 @ the Tropicana in Las Vegas READ & DISTRIBUTE & READ & DISTRIBUTE & READ & DISTRIBUTE & READ & DISTRIBUTE & This is _not_ the professional sounding announcement. Use that one to con your boss / employers out of the cost of the trip. The professional announcement will be available on the ftp site and other more serious mailing lists and news groups, etc. This is the k-RaD kriminal shout out to all u el1te haquer types that aren't in jail to attend 'da def con. werd. READ & DISTRIBUTE & READ & DISTRIBUTE & READ & DISTRIBUTE & READ & DISTRIBUTE & What's this? This is an initial announcement and invitation to DEF CON III, a convention for the "underground" elements of the computer culture. We try to target the (Fill in your favorite word here): Hackers, Phreaks, Hammies, Virii Coders, Programmers, Crackers, Cyberpunk Wannabees, Civil Liberties Groups, CypherPunks, Futurists, Artists, Criminally Insane, Hearing Impaired. WHO: You know who you are, you shady characters. WHAT: A convention for you to meet, party, and listen to some speeches that you would normally never get to hear from some k-rad people. WHEN: August 4, 5, 6 - 1995 (Speaking on the 5th and 6th) WHERE: Las Vegas, Nevada @ The Tropicana Hotel So you heard about DEF CON II, and want to hit part III? You heard about the parties, the info discussed, the bizarre atmosphere of Las Vegas and want to check it out in person? You want to do weird shit _away_ from the hotel where you could get me in trouble? Then you're just the person to attend! Sure it's great to meet and party with fellow hackers, but besides that we try to provide information and speakers in a forum that can't be found at other conferences. While there is an initial concern that this is just another excuse for the evil hackers to party and wreak havoc, it's just not the case. People come to DEF CON for information and for making contacts. We strive to distinguish this convention from others in that respect. Plus this year we have official DEF CON GOONS(c) who will pummel you until you pass out should you cause problems for other con.friendly people! Big Brother loves you! What's been said (Only the good stuff will be quoted, of course) Stevyn - "Why can eye say, it was intense! . . . the whole con just kicked ass! I totally recommend you check out the next one." Gail Thackeray, Prosecutor, "It's partly an entertaining party, it's partly a fashion statement. But it's mostly something about which the business world has no clue." Wendy Murdock, Boardwatch, "Def Con represents the tug-of-war that has always been present - people strive to get that which is just out of reach, aggravating governments and breaking rules in the process." ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: WHERE IT IS: The Tropicana has rooms reserved for the convention. Rooms are expensive. They are even more expensive if you don't book under the convention. If it is to expensive for you, please see the section below on Las Vegas www sites that can provide you with information on other nearby hotels that are cheaper. Check-in is 3pm, check-out time is 12 noon. Remember there is an 8% sales tax in Vegas. 65$ Single or Double room, Midweek (Mon-Thurs) 90$ Single or Double room, Weekend (Fri-Sun) 350$ One-Bedroom Suite (Call for Availability) The Tropicana, 3801 Las Vegas Blvd. So., Las Vegas, Nevada, 89109 (702) 739-2581 or (800) 468-9494 or (702) 739-2448 (Fax) Held in three conference rooms at the Tropicana hotel in Las Vegas, DEF CON promises to be interesting. The Tropicana has a huge pool (largest in the world? Anyway, lots of cool movies have been filmed with this pool in them) and in August Vegas should be about 100(f) degrees at one in the morning. What do you care? You'll be wired on caffeine and not sleeping anyway. There are numerous attractions in town from the strip bars to the local COs in case you seek distraction. The Tropicana is located right on the "Strip" with the other three corners of the street occupied by the MGM Grand (Largest hotel in the world), the Excalibur, and the Luxor (The big sense-net pyramid). If you can afford it I totally recommend spending some extra time in town.. there are too many cool things to do, especially if you have never visited. Heck, last time I got to rent and fire uzi's and MP-5 machine guns (OK, so you can do that for free in Los Angeles) see some strippers, and drink 1$ bottles of imported beer. What a place! Now you know why I chose Vegas for a location. SPECIAL EVENTS This year there will be a number of special events going down, including: [> Haquer Jeopardy [> Spot the Fed Contest [> Voice bridge [> Giveaways [> A Red Box Creation Contest [> A Video Room [> Cool Video Shit [> Scavenger Contest [> Who knows? COSTS Because of the increased costs associated with the convention this year, the price of admission will be 30$ in advance (See the end of this announcement the address to pre-register to) or 40$ at the door. This will include your goovie 24bit color name tag and a conference program. Don't forget to factor in Hotel costs, (The more people you crash with, the cheaper it is) gambling, food, gas, bail, etc. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: SPEAKERS This is a partial list of speakers for this year. More are being invited or waiting to make plans. As this list changes further announcements will be made. This should give you a flavor or what to expect, though. [> Winn Schwartau, Author of "Information Warfare" and "Terminal Compromise," is a consultant to government and the private sector regarding enterprise and national security concerns. TOPICS: "Information Warfare, the year in review" (Comedic) and "Tempest Attack Videos." [> Len Rose AKA Terminus is root at Bar Net, the largest internet provider in the world. Sun Microsystems and HP are some of their customers. After the legal fiasco Len faced years ago (as partially chronicled in "The Hacker Crackdown." This will be his first chance to speak of his experiences without the threat of having his parole revoked. TOPIC: To be decided later. [> Chris Hall of Executive Protection will be demonstrating a fully equipped "A-Team" van, a fully loaded spy mobile with all types of cool interception and surveillance goodies. Last year his talk included an overview of surveillance techniques. TOPIC: To be decided later. [> Sarah Gordon, AKA Theora, a veteran of DC II will be presenting another speech this year. Last year she organized a round table discussion with Phil Zimmermann and Presence, and revealed that the Anonymous remailer was compromised. TOPIC: Not Announced Yet. [> Curtis Karnow, former federal prosecutor and attorney focusing on intellectual property litigation and computer law. TOPIC: Agents in the telecommunications context, and "smart" software that we 'trust' to do the Right Thing. The specific issue is legal liability and responsibility for the actions of intelligent agents, and then spinning off to chat about the liability for artificial intelligence generally. Speakers will be talking Saturday and Sunday, and maybe Friday depending. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: SPECIAL EVENTS So you think you're so damn smart, eh? Think your shit doesn't stink? Right. Think you got one up on the Feds, huh? Well, now's your chance to prove it smarty-pants. Winn Schwartau will take command and moderate. ! A N N O U N C I N G ! H A C K E R J E O P A R D Y That's right. You can now prove how smart you really are. Get up on stage and question a few answers, pile up the points . . . and win big! You know the game. You know the rules. Now all you have to do is have the guts, get up on stage in front of your peers and the narcs and show us all! When? After Dark Tangent's opening speech (which we're all really looking forward to . . . [yawn] HACKER JEOPARDY starts! MIDNIGHT - DAY 1 of DEFCON. If you wanna play . . . show up. If you don't wanna play, don't show up. There will be three rounds of three people. Just like real. The winners of each round will go into the Finals and the winner of that will win 25,000 units of some foreign currency! From Dark Tangent himself! Plus: - A t-shirt three sizes to small for the women - No t-shirts for the men. - Silk jackets for everyone. - One Heineken per player per round at DT's expense. - Round trip directions to Hoover Dam - Phiber Optik's home address - Eric Bloodaxe's Blood Samples - And more . . . Contestants will be picked at random from a pool of those who want to play. If you don't wanna play, don't enter the contest. Only the elite survive! FEDS: If you get picked to play, and we ask you what your job is, YOU HAVE TO TELL THE TRUTH! If you don't, our custom Fed-O-Meter will detect your lies and off to the casinos you go! Potential categories for questions include: - - Famous Busts - Famous Narcs - UNIX Bugs - Telco Tech - "Hacking" and beware of the killer daily double. Bribing the judge is acceptable. So, in the inimitable words of Al Bundy . . . LET'S ROCK! 3rd ANNUAL SPOT THE FED CONTEST Spot the fed, win the shirt "Like a paranoid version of pin the tail on the donkey, the favorite sport at this gathering of computer hackers and phone phreaks seems to be hunting down real and imagined telephone security and Federal and local law enforcement authorities who the attendees are certain are tracking their every move.. .. Of course, they may be right." John Markhoff, NYT Basically the contest goes like this: If you see some shady MB (Men in Black) earphone penny loafer sunglass wearing Clint Eastwood to live and die in L.A. type lurking about, point him out. Just get my attention and claim out loud you think you have spotted a fed. The people around at the time will then (I bet) start to discuss the possibility of whether or not a real fed has been spotted. Once enough people have decided that a fed has been spotted, and the Identified Fed (I.F.) has had a say, and informal vote takes place, and if enough people think it's a true fed, or fed wanna-be, or other nefarious style character, you win a "I spotted the fed!" shirt, and the I.F. gets an "I am the fed!" shirt. Note to the feds: This is all in good fun, and if you survive unmolested and undetected, but would still secretly like an "I am the fed!" shirt to wear around the office or when booting in doors, please contact me when no one is looking and I will take your order(s). Just think of all the looks of awe you'll generate at work wearing this shirt while you file away all the paperwork you'll have to generate over this convention. I won't turn in any feds who contact me, they have to be spotted by others. TELEPHONE CONFERENCE BRIDGE For DEF CON III there will be a dial in conference set up. If you are overseas, or just too poor to make it to the convention this year, you can still get an idea of what is going on and participate. One part of the voice conference equipment will allow you to listen to the convention room microphone, another will allow you to ask questions during the Q&A sections of peoples speeches. A general conversation area will be up so you can chat with others at the convention, or just others dialed into the bridge. As more technical information and phone numbers become available for the bridge I will post them in future convention updates. Navigate through the voice mail maze and get free phone sex! Impress others! SPOOAH DOOPAH RAFFLE GIVE AWAY!@# Throughout the convention, between speakers and events there will be a raffle giveaway in which if your number is drawn, you win the prize. Last year's giveaway included an ancient kaypro monochrome portable, a roll of Sprint "security" tape, "Computer Warriors" evil anti-virus cartoon, a 240 meg IDE HD, and other elite things. >> All the prizes given away are donated by other convention goers, so if << >> you have any stuff to give away, please save and donate it to the con! << RED BOX BUILDING CONTEST While we don't encourage or condone the use of toll fraud devices, we do encourage creativity and expression of thought. We combine these and come up with a red box creating contest. The final device doesn't have to produce the real red box tones (Can't have people getting arrested) BUT it does have to produce some tones like with the stock crystal. This contest is inspired by last year's give away of a red box "Big Red" that looked just like a big pack of Big Red gum, but really was a red box. Elite! There was also a little girl's doll that was a red box, but the switch for that one was hidden under the dress and, well, it just wasn't given away. Come up with unique ideas! With just a Hallmark card and some spare time you can create an elite 007 style tone generating device! What will you win if yours is chosen as the most k-rad beside the envy of fellow hackers? You'll get a tee shirt and the cost of admission to the convention refunded PLUS some as-of-yet undecided prize. I bet you just can't wait to burn your fingers with your soldering iron now! THE VIDEO ROOM In one of the rooms a LCD wall projector will be hooked up connected to a VCR, and people can bring flicts to play. Stuff like Max Headroom, War Games etc. You know, the cool cheesy stuff. Also some "hacker" videos will be shown. If you have something you wanna show, bring it along. When the projector is needed in the main conference room it will be swiped for the duration. COOL VIDEO SHIT At this time we are working to see if a T1 connection is possible. If it is there will be a cu-see me connection set up with multiple video cameras in various locations. Images will also be added automatically to a WWW page for people to snag. As all this works itself out there will be further announcements. No, there will be no "Hack our server" contests, and there will be "Security Professionals" with "Diagnostic Tools" to "Correct" any people who may case the network problems. SCAVENGER CONTEST A scavenger contest is being planned. The person or group with the most number of items on the list wins the prize. (Prize undetermined as of yet) and there will be a few follow up prizes. Don't forget to carry massive amounts of water as you run about the concrete jungle, dehydration can happen just crossing the street. This is a contest for only the most k-rad. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP DEF CON III will be planned right up until the last minute, with problems being fixed and new things being added all along.. a sort of work in progress that you get to witness in person when you show up. Hopefully it won't be too messed up when presented to the public. What can you do to help? - -> We are looking for people to speak on Personnel Information Gathering and selling. Hopefully a speaker (who could remain anonymous) in this area has experiences in gathering and selling such information. If you know of such a person, please invite them to contact me or let them know we are looking for such speakers. - -> We are looking for some people to submit artwork to be used in the convention someplace. It could be a poster, or in the program. Black and white art would be eligible for the program only. - -> Articles and interesting ftp sites, www pages, mini FAQs, etc. are all wanted for the program. Quality articles that are informative and apply to the theme of the convention. Scanner frequency lists, ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: MORE DEF CON INFORMATION The World Wide Web Page is located at: FTP Site: /pub/defcon Mailing lists: mail with the following statement in the body of your message: subscribe dc-announce This will set you up on the mailing list and you will receive updated information, information on the other mailing lists offered, etc. I suggest joining the dc-stuff list just so you can talk and plan with other people going to the con to coordinate rides, sharing of rooms, etc. Voice or Voice Mail: 0-700-826-4368 from a phone with AT&T LD. E-Mail: (The Dark Tangent) Snail Mail: 2709 E. Madison #102, Seattle, WA, 98112 BBS System to call for info if you don't have net access: Alliance Communications - +1 612 251 2511 - USRobotics HST DS 16800 NUP: New World Order Underground Information for Security Professionals and interested parties. Formerly ASU Underground in Tempe, AZ (602) & Radio Waves in MN (612). Associated Electronic News Network from American Justice Federation International Information Retrieval Guild Distro Site, Electronic Frontier Foundation MEMBER, and Phantasy Magazine Distribution Site. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: INFORMATION ABOUT LAS VEGAS NEWS GROUPS Please note the following newsgroups may or may not be designated for local distribution (Distribution: Vegas and/or nv), and is intended for all systems in the Las Vegas area or those interested in same on the same level as the la, ca, ba, ny, nyc, and other similar local higherarchies: Talk for bisexually natured persons vegas.config Configuration discussions for the higherarchy Anything about food in Las Vegas vegas.for-sale For Sale/Want ads (no commercials, please!) vegas.general General discussion Jobs offered and wanted in Las Vegas vegas.motss MOTSS community talk vegas.personals Personal ads - any nature Talk for singles vegas.test Group to test post to WWW PAGES about Las Vegas, Hotels, Things to do, etc. HTTP:// HTTP:// HTTP:// HTTP:// ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: STUFF TO BUY Stuff is for sale from DEF CON I and II in case you are interested. From the first year we have audio tapes (4 90 minute tapes) for $20 and the second year (10 90 minute tapes) for $30. Descriptions of these tapes are below. DEF CON I Tapes (4) include the following speakers: Ray Kaplan, Curtis Karnow, Gail Thackary, Dead Addict, Dark Druid, Judi Clark Dan Farmer, and Dr. Mark Ludwig. DEF CON II Tapes (10) include the following speakers: Phillip Zimmermann : Keynote Speaker, PGP. Gail Thackary : Response to Mr. Zimmerman and Privacy issues. Chris Hall : Electronic Surveilance. Curtis Karnow : Recombinant Culture, Crime in the Digital Network. Dr. Mark Ludwig : Virus Creation Awards and What to do when the Feds come. Judi Clark, Mara, Fen and Marianne in a Round Table Discussion. The Dark Knight : Hacking in the U.K. Sara Gordon, Mark Aldrich, Phil Zimmerman: Internet and PGP privacy concerns. Annaliza (Torquie) : The European Underground scene. Mark : Mark Lottor : Various cellular topics. Winn Schwartau : HERF guns, Van Eck, Information Warfare Peter Beruk : The role of the SPA, general Q&A. Padgett Peterson : Anti-Virus writing, Cleaning up other peoples messes. The Jackal : A basic radio overview with Q&A. Artimage : Underground spoof and give aways. Stephen Dunifer : Radio Free Berkeley and pirate media. Damien Thorn : Random Cell information from the late night tech talks. SHIRTS are still available to buy. The ones remaining are long sleeve white with the choice of two styles. Both styles have a three color logo on the front (Red, Gray, Black) with "DEF CON". The back is either a list of strange grep key words and "inside" keywords with "Why? Because I can." at the top. Back #2 is the same back as DEF CON I with the old and "new" 4 Amendment as stated by J.P. Barlow with "Protect your rights, Encrypt your data..." at the top. The back on this style is two colors.. black lettering framed in light gray for better definition. Shirts are $20. SHIPPING : If you buy anything, please include 2.90 for priority shipping. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: LAST AND LEAST OK! Your almost ready to go. Now here is an E-Z to follow checklist of things you should take care of before throwing caution to the wind and bailing out to the dangerous and sexy-wrong world of Las Vegas. In the words of one famous (and abused) phone system: "Sit up straight, PAY ATTENTION, Listen to what your being told. (Now try again)" (Whoever can identify that phone system first gets in free) StUPh 2 D0 b3fore the C0nvent1ion: _ Check out inpho about Vegas so you know what you wanna do. _ Get a hotel room or some crash pad. _ Bring $40 for admission or pay $30 in advance. _ Bring your PGP key on disk to key sign with others. _ Bring Laptop, laplink, serial, and bizarre gender changer cables. _ Bring things to donate for the give-away raffle. _ Leave massively incriminating evidence at home. _ Police scanners can provide hours of fun in Vegas. _ Bring interesting videos to play in the video room. _ Caffeine and snacks are fun to eat. _ Don't forget any drugs or medication you may need. _ You won't need saline for your contact lenses, you won't be sleeping. _ Anything you promised your friends you would bring for them. _ Join the mailing list and arrange rides or rooms with others in advance. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: MY PGP KEY This is the unsigned version My signed version is available on the public key-servers - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.1 mQCNAy6v5H8AAAEEAJ7xUzvdRFMtJW3CLRs2yXL0BC9dBiB6+hAPgBVqSWbHWVIT /5A38LPA4zqeGnGpmZjGev6rPeFEGxDfoV68voLOonRPcea9d/ow0Aq2V5I0nUrl LKU7gi3TgEXvhUmk04hjr8Wpr92cTEx4cIlvAeyGkoirb+cihstEqldGqClNAAUR tCZUaGUgRGFyayBUYW5nZW50IDxkdGFuZ2VudEBkZWZjb24ub3JnPg== =ngNC - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: WHY IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT SIGNED? Well, last year it came to my attention that some unknown person in California had modified an announcement and was having people mail their pre-registration money to them instead. It was actually pretty funny. Only one person was fooled and lost 10$. Not bad. I knew something was up when he said he had pre-registered for 10$ and had the receipt I had supposedly mailed back. I am never that organized! To avoid potential problems like this one please verify this announcement!@# My key is available for verification on public key servers, and my key-id is 46A8294D. The other key you will find on servers may be my older 1284bit key, which is still good, but just not used to sign this text. END ANNOUNCEMENT --------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLx9EqstEqldGqClNAQF+tQP/fVRMKLwHOjPFiizoFFVR0gjMnP/J/L24 1DhCJvw6ePaFAwuVHoRYenYulvoJVcRGnL+Do8ZXNqZ1Hz0oGQjcb7A0sW5BxJi6 VL6CCKIM8oCnsQQYlxvUn+omaVDXqfjcKNnehLTg0jrLAOjMUBaO9mt392MHN+Tb Icw0yVEHU1g= =Jq1x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1994 22:51:01 CDT From: CuD Moderators Subject: File 3--Cu Digest Header Information (unchanged since 25 Nov 1994) Cu-Digest is a weekly electronic journal/newsletter. Subscriptions are available at no cost electronically. CuD is available as a Usenet newsgroup: Or, to subscribe, send a one-line message: SUB CUDIGEST your name Send it to LISTSERV@UIUCVMD.BITNET or LISTSERV@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU The editors may be contacted by voice (815-753-0303), fax (815-753-6302) or U.S. mail at: Jim Thomas, Department of Sociology, NIU, DeKalb, IL 60115, USA. 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