To: Eddie Johnston Msg #72, 930625 09:04:14 Subject: Creation failure EJ On the other hand

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From: Simon Ewins To: Eddie Johnston Msg #72, 93-06-25 09:04:14 Subject: Creation failure EJ> On the other hand, it is incumbent on those who say that life is simply EJ> a combination of chemicals to create a living being from raw chemicals. EJ> Has any scientist created a living being from chemicals? Until they do, EJ> it is simply a wild speculation to say that life is just chemicals. Yes. Read up on the Urey-Miller experiments at the University of Chicago in the 1950's and then follow it up with study of the more recent work of Dr. Sidney Fox at the University of Miami. Urey-Miller created amino acids by discharging electricity through an atmospheric soup of chemicals. Much as lightning passing through a primordial Earth's atmosphere would have done. Sidney Fox at the University of Miami took those amino acids (created in the same way) and then, by heating them (to less than 150 degrees F) in conjunction with other aspartic and glutamic acids (also created through simulation experiments) and was able to polymerize them into proteinoid microspheres. Under a microscope, the microspheres look like primitive cells. In fact, artificially fossilized microspheres are indistinguishable from the earliest known microfossils that date back to about 3.5 BYA. Although hesitant to claim that these were alive Dr. Fox stated that they were undeniably "protoalive". This is not an evasive answer. As Tim M. Berra says in "Evolution and the Myth of Creationism" (pg.75): "For centuries, science knew nothing intermediate between non-living and living things, but today the distinction is not at all clear. Since life evolved from non-living matter, at some point we must arbitrarily draw a line and say that everything beyond that point is alive. Viruses, for example, appear to be alive when they infect a host, but seem to be non-living when outside a host." Since a single cell would appear to be the smallest unit that can be said to be alive, proteinoid microspheres may quite justifiably be called protocells, or, life. These are just the early stages of these types of experiments. There is every likelihood that within the next couple hundred years man will be able to create self-replicating life of varying forms from purely chemical and natural elements under laboratory conditions.

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