Subject: Zuckerman Help I have some ICR literature where Gish, Bliss and Bird quote Zucker

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From: Richard Trott Subject: Zuckerman Help Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. From: trott@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Richard Trott) Message-ID: Newsgroups: talk.origins I have some ICR literature where Gish, Bliss and Bird quote Zuckerman as saying that there are no "fossil traces" of a transformation from an ape-like creature to man. I found the source of the quotation. It is a 1970 or 1971 book called _Beyond the Ivory Tower_. I noticed that the chapter the quotation comes from is "based" on a 1954 article. The article is "Art and Science in Anatomical Diagnosis" from the Manchester University Medical School Gazette. Rutgers doesn't have this particular periodical, so before I order it from some other library, I figured I'd be annoying and ask if anyone is either familiar with this or if they had easy access to the source. (It's volume 33.) Basically, the big question is does the following appear in the original article: "For example, no scientist could logically dispute the proposition that man, without having been involved in any act of divine creation, evolved from some ape-like creature in a very short space of time--speaking in geological terms--without leaving any fossil traces of the steps of the transformation." If it DOES in fact appear in the original article, I guess it would be fair to say that it was ridiculously dated by the time the ICR got around to using it in 1981. Certainly many important fossil discoveries concerning human origins were made in the 1960's and 1970's, so the quotation would hardly be applicable to the current available evidence. In the book, it appears at the end of the eighth paragraph of the chapter. Anyone know if it appears in the article? rich "interlibrary loans take too long" trott

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