To: All Msg #199, Jul1493 05:56PM Subject: Re: How many creation scientists? In article 22

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From: James J. Lippard To: All Msg #199, Jul-14-93 05:56PM Subject: Re: How many creation scientists? Organization: University of Arizona From: lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard) Message-ID: <14JUL199318565189@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> Newsgroups: talk.origins In article <222353$s6n@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, tjt@scn1.Jpl.Nasa.Gov writes... > Henry Morris's PhD is in civil engineering, specializing in hydraulics >and fluid mechanics, University of Minnesota, which makes him a real winner >with the flood folks. Duane Gish's PhD is in biochemistry from U.C. Berkeley. >Thomas Barnes has an M.A. in physics from Brown University, his D.Sc. is an >honorary degree from Hardin Simmons University in Abilene, Texas. Others I >don't know. > All 3 of these schools are perfectly reputable places, though 3 data points >out of a few hundred is hardly a major trend. However, I think it does make >the point that religious based pre-disposition is the most powerful influence >at work here. Morris, Gish, and Barnes have all taken definitive and >un-ambiguous positions very much at odds with their own fields of >specialization, >and then used their degrees as weapons in arguing from authority. The following are the faculty of the ICR Graduate School: Gerald Aardsma, Ph.D. nuclear physics, Univ. of Toronto. ICR GS faculty. Steven Austin, Ph.D. geology, Pennsylvania State University. ICR GS faculty. Richard Bliss, Ed.D., University of Sarasota (diploma mill). ICR GS faculty. Kenneth Cumming, Ph.D. biology, Harvard. Dean of ICR GS. Donald Chittick, Ph.D. physical chemistry, Oregon State University. ICR GS adjunct faculty. Steve Deckard, Ed.D., University of Sarasota (diploma mill). ICR GS adjunct faculty. Donald DeYoung, Ph.D. physics, Iowa State University. ICR GS adjunct faculty, prof. at Grace College. Editor of the _Creation Research Society Quarterly_. Dennis Englin, Ed.D., USC. ICR GS adjunct faculty, prof. of science at Master's College. Danny Faulkner, Ph.D. astronomy, Indiana University. ICR GS adjunct faculty. Assoc. prof. of astronomy and physics at Univ. of South Carolina, Lancaster. Carl Fliermans, Ph.D. microbiology, Indiana University. ICR GS adjunct faculty. Robert Franks, M.D., UCLA. ICR GS adjunct faculty. Duane Gish, Ph.D. biochemistry, UC Berkeley. ICR Vice President. Ken Ham, B.App.Sc., Queensland Institute of Technology. ICR director of seminars. Affiliated with Australian Creation Science Foundation. D. Russell Humphreys, Ph.D. physics, Louisiana State Univ. ICR GS adjunct faculty. Dmitri Kouznetsov, M.D., I.M. Sechenov School of Medicine, Ph.D. biochemistry, Moscow M.V. Lomonosov State University, D.Sc. molecular biology, U.S.S.R. Academy of Medical Sciences Institute for Nutrition Research. ICR GS adjunct faculty. Lane Lester, Ph.D. genetics, Purdue University. ICR GS adjunct faculty, prof. at Liberty University (Falwell's university). George Lindsey, Ed.D., East Texas State University. ICR GS adjunct faculty. Marvin Lubenow, M.S. physical science, Eastern Michigan University. ICR GS adjunct faculty, prof. at Christian Heritage College. Richard Lumsden, Ph.D. biology, Rice University. ICR GS faculty. (Was Dean of the Graduate School at Tulane University.) John Meyer, Ph.D. zoology, University of Iowa. ICR GS adjunct faculty. Director of Creation Research Society Center, Chino Valley, Arizona. Henry Morris, Ph.D. hydrology, Univ. of Minnesota. ICR President. John Morris, Ph.D. (no subject listed, but it's geo engineering), Univ. of Oklahoma. ICR Administrative Vice President and ICR GS faculty. Chris Osborne, Ph.D. biology, Loma Linda University. ICR GS visiting prof. Gary Parker, Ed.D., Ball State University. ICR GS adjunct faculty. Prof. of natural science at Clearwater Christian College. Andrew Snelling, Ph.D. geology, University of Sydney. ICR GS adjunct faculty. Affiliated with Australian Creation Science Foundation. Larry Vardiman, Ph.D. atmospheric sciences, Colorado State Univ. ICR GS faculty. T.V. Varughese, Ph.D. mathematics, Indiana University. ICR GS adjunct faculty, computer science prof. at National University, San Diego. Kurt Wise, Ph.D. invertebrate paleontology, Harvard. ICR GS adjunct faculty, prof. at Bryan College. (Dissertation advisor was Stephen Jay Gould. His M.S. is from the Univ. of Chicago, where his thesis advisor was David Raup.) John Whitcomb, Th.D., Grace Theological Seminary. (Apparently no official affiliation with the ICR.) I have the dates when some of these degrees were awarded, but didn't think about recording that information here until now. Many of them are from the 1960's or earlier. Those who earned their last degree 1979 or later are Aardsma (I think, no date given but he joined the ICR in 1987, apparently straight out of the university), Austin (1979), Deckard (1986), Faulkner (1989), Kouznetsov (Ph.D. 1981, D.Sc. 1989), Lindsey (1981), John Morris (1980), Osborne (1989), Snelling (1981), and Wise (1989). Of these, I suspect that Aardsma, Kouznetsov, and Wise are not young earthers. (Aardsma has argued in the _CRSQ_ that the flood had to be at least 20,000 years ago.) Jim Lippard Lippard@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU Dept. of Philosophy Lippard@ARIZVMS.BITNET University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 85721

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