Subject +quot;The best 150 records of all time+quot; type lists. Date 3 Feb 1993 131147 -0

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From: mingus@usl.com (Marcel Franck Simon) Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote Subject: "The best 150 records of all time" type lists... Message-ID: <1kp1t3INN41d@rahsaan.usl.com> Date: 3 Feb 1993 13:11:47 -0500 Organization: UNIX System Laboratories, Summit, NJ Lines: 278 > smehta@nynexst.com (Sandeep Mehta): > Heh, heh :-) Marcel the last time we spoke about this you said > 150/1500/15000/150000 albums respectively!! :-) :-) Yeah but I included blues here, 'cause I firmly believe you can't have a jazz collection without including lotsa blues and vice versa :-) > recommends for starters in his short list which he claims covers most > styles in the text JAZZ STYLES. Apparently a longer discography is > alluded to but I couldn't find it. [ list deleted ] Way back when mail.jazz was happening, someone had asked for the "start-up list of 100 albums", and I actually spent time compiling such a list. Well, I tend never to throw things away, so... (search, unarchive, blow away dust and voila!) Here it is, for your enjoyment. This is from: Jazz Mailing List, Volume 3, Issue 08 Sunday, October 4th 1987 I echo Sandeep's reminder to use this at your own risk :-) In particular, it is of its time, and does NOT reflect reissues since then. Nor does it reflect how the music (or my own tastes :-)) have changed in 5+ years :-) ------------------------------ From: attunix!mingus Marcel Simon Subject: A list for Patrick Curran's friend Per Patrick Curran's request for his friend, I have put together a list of albums that would make a good start toward a comprehensive jazz collection. It is *not* in itself comprehensive; to sketch out all of jazz history would require on the order of 1,000 albums, not 100; a fully comprehensive jazz discography would require on the order of 5,000 albums, in my opinion. I say this knowing that the Rutgers Institute of Jazz Studies, which is probably as close to having *everything* as anyone ever will be, had some 60,000 records (piano rolls, 78s, 45s, 7, 10 and 12 inch LPs) as of five years ago; and according to Susan Griffin, who ran the place from day to day (at the time; she has retired) they had some "egregious" holes still. All that to say that this list is not *not* NOT *NOT* **NOT** complete. And sorry, Patrick, I could not get down to 100 records. Just to make 150, I had to combine several "Volume 1 and 2" into single entries. And thank God for anthologies that combine several albums' worth of material into one box. Any serious jazz fan could come up with a list that differs significantly from this one. That's OK, and I'd like to see what people would/would not include; that's how we get further into the music. The format is: Name TITLE (Label issue date; recording date(s)). A `-' issue date means "unknown"; a missing recording date means it's same as issue date. `-> (number)' means see number in the list for more by this artist. [CD] means get the CD rather than the LP. Otherwise LP and CD are equivalent. + means this is really two records (volumes) even though I have grouped them. * means out of print. I have made no effort to stick to records that are in print since there is a huge re-issue effort under way, and since with a little effort (and a bit more money :-) one can find most of this stuff. So without further ado: 1) James P. Johnson THE ORIGINAL JAMES P. JOHNSON (Folkways -; 1943-45) *or* JAMES P. JOHNSON (Biograph -; 1917-21) The latter has worse sound, but has the famous "Carolina Shout" 2) Luckey Roberts and Willie "The Lion" Smith HARLEM PIANO (Good Time 1958) 3) Fats Waller PIANO SOLOS (RCA -; 1929-41) 4) Louis Armstrong THE GENIUS OF LOUIS ARMSTRONG VOLUME 1 (Columbia 1975; 1923-33) -> (13) , (67) 5) LOUIS ARMSTRONG AND EARL HINES (Smithsonian -; 1928) 6) Earl Hines THE INDISPENSABLE EARL HINES VOLUMES 5 AND 6 (RCA 1982; 1944, 1964, 1966) 7) Bessie Smith NOBODY'S BLUES BUT MINE (Columbia 1965; 1925-27) Choosing this one is stricly personal preference. ANY WOMAN'S BLUES, THE EMPRESS, EMPTY BED BLUES and THE WORLD's GREATEST BLUES SINGER are all equally excellent 8) JELLY ROLL MORTON (Milestone -; 1923-24) 9) Sidney Bechet JAZZ CLASSICS VOLUMES 1 and 2+ (Blue Note 1952; 1939, 1940, 1945, 1946, 1951) 10) Fletcher Henderson DEVELOPING AN AMERICAN ORCHESTRA (Smithsonian -; 1923-37) 11) Duke Ellington THE WEBSTER BLANTON BAND (RCA 1987; 1940-42) 12) Duke Ellington ELLINGTON AT NEWPORT (Columbia 1956) 13) Duke Ellington ECHOES OF AN ERA WITH LOUIS ARMSTRONG (Roulette 1961) 14) Duke Ellington MONEY JUNGLE [CD] (BLue Note 1963) 15) Duke Ellington THE FAR EAST SUITE* (RCA 1967) 16) Count Basie THE BEST OF COUNT BASIE (MCA 1980; 1938-39) This period is also ably represented by SUPER CHIEF (Columbia 1972); GOOD MORNING BLUES (MCA 1977); and THE EARLY YEARS (Book of the Month Club Records 1982) 17) Count Basie APRIL IN PARIS (Verve 1955) -> (40) 18) Charlie Christian SOLO FLIGHT (Columbia 1972; 1939-41) 19) Lester Young THE ALADDIN SESSIONS (Blue Note 1975; 1945-48) 20) Lester Young BIRD AND PREZ: THE '46 CONCERTS (Verve 1977; 1946) 21) Lester Young PREZ AND TEDDY AND OSCAR (Verve 1976; 1952, 1956) -> (29) (22) 22) Coleman Hawkins CLASSIC TENORS (Flying Tenors 1971; 1943) 23) Coleman Hawkins DUKE ELLINGTON MEETS COLEMAN HAWKINS (Impulse 1962) 24) Coleman Hawkins TENOR GIANTS (Verve 1977; 1957, 1959) -> (10), (43) 25) Ben Webster ATMOSPHERE FOR LOVERS AND THIEVES (Black Lion 1965) -> (11), (24), (33), (37) 26) Lucky Thompson LUCKY STRIKES (Prestige 1964) -> (60) 27) Benny Carter FURTHER DEFINITIONS (Impulse 1962) 28) Benny Carter CARTER - GILLESPIE INC (Pablo 1976) -> (37) 29) Billie Holiday LADY DAY (Columbia 1955; 1935-37) 30) Billie Holiday STRANGE FRUIT (Atlantic 1972; 1939, 1944) 31) Billie Holiday ALL OR NOTHING AT ALL (Verve 1978; 1955, 1956) 32) Art Tatum MASTERPIECES (MCA 1973; 1941, 1944) 33) Art Tatum TATUM GROUP MASTERPIECES - TATUM/WEBSTER (Pablo 1975; 1956) 34) Charlie Parker THE VERY BEST OF BIRD (Warner Brothers 1977; 1946-47) 35) Charlie Parker BIRD/THE SAVOY MASTER RECORDINGS (Savoy 1976; 1944-48) 36) Charlie Parker THE GREATEST JAZZ CONCERT EVER (Prestige 1973; 1953) 37) Charlie Parker NORMAN GRANZ JAM SESSIONS (Verve 1976; 1952) 38) Dizzy Gillespie IN THE BEGINNING (Prestige 1972; 1945-50) 39) Dizzy Gillespie BIG BAND IN CONCERT (GNP 1954; 1948) 40) Dizzy Gillespie THE GIFTED ONES (Pablo 1979) -> (28), (36) 41) Thelonious Monk THE COMPLETE BLUE NOTE RECORDINGS (Mosaic 1983; 1947-49, 1951, 1957) 42) Thelonious Monk MONK (Prestige 1953) 43) Thelonious Monk BRILLIANT CORNERS (Prestige 1954) 44) Thelonious Monk MONK/TRANE (Prestige 1973; 1957) 45) Thelonious Monk LIVE AT THE FIVE SPOT (Milestone 1977; 1958) 46) Art Blakey MOANIN' (Blue Note 1958) 47) Art Blakey THE BIG BEAT (Blue Note 1961) 48) Art Blakey THREE BLIND MICE (United Artists 1963) 49) Art Blakey ALBUM OF THE YEAR (Timeless 1981) 50) Horace Silver BLOWIN' THE BLUES AWAY (Blue Note 1959) 51) Bud Powell THE COMPLETE BLUE NOTE RECORDINGS (Mosaic 1986; 1949-58) 52) Bud Powell THE GENIUS OF BUD POWELL VOLUME 1 (Verve 1976; 1949, 1950, 1951) -> (36), (69) 53) Clifford Brown CLIFFORD BROWN/MAX ROACH INC. (Mercury 1955) 54) Clifford Brown JORDU (Trip 1955) -> (55) 55) Sonny Rollins SAXOPHONE COLOSSUS AND MORE (Prestige 1975; 1956) 56) Sonny Rollins MORE FROM THE VANGUARD (Blue Note 1975; 1957) 57) Sonny Rollins WAY OUT WEST (Contemporary 1957) 58) Sonny Rollins THE FREEDOM SUITE (Riverside 1958) -> (41), (42) 59) Modern Jazz Quartet THE LAST CONCERT (Atlantic 1975) 60) Miles Davis WALKIN (Prestige 1954) 61) Miles Davis PORGY AND BESS (Columbia 1958) Choosing between this one an SKETCHES OF SPAIN (Columbia 1959) is purely personal preference; they are equally good 62) Miles Davis KIND OF BLUE (Columbia 1959) I think this is the greatest album of all time. 63) Gil Evans GREAT JAZZ STANDARDS* (World Pacific 1959) This is also part of an out of print Blue Note twofer called PACIFIC STANDARD TIME, which also includes a similar album of jazz classics called ROOTS, that features Cannonball Adderley. -> (61) 64) SARAH VAUGHAN (Mercury 1955) 65) Sarah Vaughan CRAZY AND MIXED UP (Pablo 1982) 66) Carmen McRae "LOVER MAN" AND OTHER BILLIE HOLIDAY CLASSICS (Columbia 1962) 67) Ella Fitzgerald ELLA AND LOUIS (Armstrong) (Verve 1957) 68) Ray Charles 25TH ANNIVERSARY SHOW BUSINESS SALUTE (Atlantic 1971; 1946-70) 69) Dexter Gordon OUR MAN IN PARIS (Blue Note 1963) GO (Blue Note 1962) is usually recognized as Gordon's best record; I prefer this one because of the presence of Bud Powell. 70) Jimmy Smith PRAYER MEETING (Blue Note 1964) 71) Wes Montgomery THE SMALL GROUP RECORDINGS (Verve 1976; 1965, 1966) 72) Cannonball Adderley 74 MILES AWAY* (Capitol 1965) 73) Bill Evans THE VILLAGE VANGUARD SESSIONS (Milestone 1973; 1961) 74) Bill Evans "PEACE PIECE" AND OTHER PIECES (Milestone 1975; 1961-63) In place of either of these one can pick up THE COMPLETE RIVERSIDE SESSIONS, a monstrous box issued in 1986 -> (62), (101) 75) Art Farmer SING ME SOFTLY OF THE BLUES (Atlantic 1965) 76) Miles Davis MILES SMILES (Columbia 1966) 77) Miles Davis FILLES OF KILIMANJARO (Columbia 1968) 78) Wynton Marsalis BLACK CODES FROM THE UNDERGROUND (Columbia 1985) -> (49) 79) John Coltrane GIANT STEPS (Atlantic 1959) 80) John Coltrane LIVE AT THE VILLAGE VANGUARD (Impulse 1961) Taking this one over IMPRESSIONS is pure preference. LIVE has "Spiritual" and "Chasing the Trane" while IMPRESSIONS has "India" and the title tune. They're both great 81) John Coltrane A LOVE SUPREME (Impulse 1964) 82) John Coltrane BALLADS (Impulse 1963) -> (43), (62) 83) Lee Konitz MOTION (Verve 1961) 84) Joe Henderson THE STATE OF THE TENOR VOLUMES 1 and 2+ (Blue Note 1986) 85) Charles Mingus TIJUANA MOODS (RCA 1962; 1957) 86) Charles Mingus BLUES AND ROOTS (Atlantic 1959) 87) Charles Mingus THE COMPLETE CANDID RECORDINGS (Mosaic 1985; 1960-61) 88) Charles Mingus THE BLACK SAINT AND THE SINNER LADY (Impulse 1963) 89) Charles Mingus MUSIC WRITTEN FOR MONTEREY, NOT HEARD, PLAYED IN ITS ENTIRETY AT UCLA (East Coasting 1966) 90) Charles Mingus CHANGES ONE (Atlantic 1975) -> (36) 91) Eric Dolphy OUT TO LUNCH (Blue Note 1962) 92) Eric Dolphy JITTERBUG WALTZ* (Douglass 1976; 1963) -> (80), (87), (101) 93) Booker Ervin LAMENT FOR BOOKER ERVIN (Inner City 1976; 1965) 94) Randy Weston LITTLE NILES (United Artists 1958) 95) McCoy Tyner ECHOES OF A FRIEND (Milestone 1972) 96) McCoy Tyner ENLIGHTENMENT (Milestone 1973) 97) McCoy Tyner SUPERTRIOS (Milestone 1977) -> (80), (81), (82) 98) Jackie McLean LET FREDOM RING (Blue Note 1962) 99) Herbie Hancock MAIDEN VOYAGE (Blue Note 1965) 100) Herbie Hancock with VSOP LIVE UNDER THE SKY (Columbia [Japan] 1980) 101) Oliver Nelson THE BLUES AND THE ABSTRACT TRUTH (Impulse 1961) 102) Toshiko Akiyoshi INSIGHTS (RCA 1976) 103) Ornette Coleman THE SHAPE OF JAZZ TO COME (Atlantic 1959) I picked this one over CHANGE OF THE CENTURY and THIS IS OUR MUSIC literally at random. These three taken together show what Ornette was up to when he hit New York; they are incomplete when taken separately 104) Ornette Coleman FREE JAZZ (Atlantic 1960) 105) Ornette Coleman LIVE AT THE GOLDEN CIRCLE STOCKHOLM VOLUMES 1 AND 2+ (Blue Note 1965) 106) Ornette Coleman SKIES OF AMERICA* (Columbia 1972) 107) Ornette Coleman IN ALL LANGUAGES (Caravan of Dreams 1987) 108) Cecil Taylor THE WORLD OF CECIL TAYLOR* (Candid 1960) 109) Cecil Taylor NEFERTITI, THE BEAUTIFUL ONE HAS COME* (Arista 1973; 1962) 110) Cecil Taylor UNIT STRUCTURES (Blue Note 1967) 111) Cecil Taylor SPRING OF TWO BLUE JAYS* (Unit Core 1974) 112) Cecil Taylor SILENT TONGUES* (Arista 1975) 113) Albert Ayler WITCHES AND DEVILS* (ESP 1964) 114) Sun Ra SUNRISE IN DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS (Hat Hut 1979) 115) Sun Ra REFELCTIONS IN BLUE (Black Saint 1987) 116) Max Roach WE INSIST! FREEDOM NOW SUITE (Columbia 1960) 117) Max Roach THE LONG MARCH (Hat Hut 1980) 118) Max Roach M'BOOM (Columbia 1980) -> (36), (44), (53), (54), (55) 119) Art Ensemble of Chicago PEOPLE IN SORROW* (Nessa 1969) 120) Art Ensemble of Chicago URBAN BUSHMEN (ECM 1982) 121) Air AIR LORE* (Arista 1979) 122) Charlie Haden LIBERATION MUSIC ORCHESTRA (Impulse 1969) -> (103), (104), (107) 123) Tony Williams EMERGENCY* (Polydor 1969) -> (76), (77), (98) 124) Sam Rivers SAM RIVERS/DAVE HOLLAND VOLUMES 1 AND 2+ (IAI 1976, 1977) -> (125) 125) Dave Holland CONFERENCE OF THE BIRDS (ECM 1973) -> (124) 126) Andrew Hill JUDGEMENT* (Blue Note 1963) 127) Archie Shepp FOUR FOR TRANE* (Impulse 1964) 128) Archie Shepp LOOKING AT BIRD (Steeplechase 1981) -> (108), (136) 129) Wayne Shorter SPEAK NO EVIL (Blue Note 1966) 130) Wayne Shorter SCHIZOPHRENIA (Blue Note 1969) 131) Wayne Shorter SUPER NOVA (Blue Note 1969) 132) Wayne Shorter NATIVE DANCER (Columbia 1975) -> (47), (48), (76), (77) 133) Charles Tolliver LIVE AT SLUGS VOLUMES 1 AND 2*+ (Strata East 1972) 134) Keith Jarrett SOLO CONCERTS BREMEN LAUSANNE (ECM 1973) 135) Muhal Richard Abrams THE VIEW FROM WITHIN (Black Saint 1985) 136) Abbey Lincoln GOLDEN LADY (Inner City 1981) -> (116) 137) Arthur Blythe LENOX AVENUE BREAKDOWN (Columbia 1979) 138) Arthur Blythe ILLUSIONS (Columbia 1980) 139) Jack DeJohnnette ALBUM ALBUM (ECM 1984) 140) Amina Claudine Myers SALUTES BESSIE SMITH (Leo 1980) 141) Dewey Redman IN WILISAU (with Ed Blackwell) (Black Saint 1985; 1980) 142) Abdullah Ibrahim (Dollar Brand) WATER ROM AN ANCIENT WELL (Black Hawk 1985) 143) George Adams - Don Pullen LIVE AT THE VILLAGE VANGUARD VOLUME 2 (Soul Note 1986) -> (90) 144) Henry Threadgill WHEN WAS THAT (About Time 1982) -> (121), (147) 145) World Saxophone Quartet WSQ (Black Saint 1980) 146) World Saxophone Quartet PLAYS ELLINGTON (Nonesuch 1986) 147) David Murray MURRAY'S STEPS [Octet] (Black Saint 1983) 148) David Murray MORNING SONG [Quartet] (Black Saint 1984) 149) David Murray BIG BAND LIVE AT SWEET BASIL VOLUME 1 AND 2+ (Black Saint 1985-86) -> (139), (145), (146) 150) James Newton THE AFRICAN FLOWER (Blue Note 1985) -- Marcel-Franck Simon mingus@usl.com, usl!mingus " Papa Loko, ou se' van, ou-a pouse'-n ale' Nou se' papiyon, n'a pote' nouvel bay Agwe' "

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