Subject: Re: Paul + Jesus (was:Re: Attention Anglicans) Date: 24 Jun 90 16:41:20 GMT In ar

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From: morgan@csc32.dec.com (Mike Morgan in Colorado Springs) Subject: Re: Paul & Jesus (was:Re: Attention Anglicans) Date: 24 Jun 90 16:41:20 GMT In article <1990Jun22.152958.619@cbnewsk.att.com>, rjb3@cbnewsk.att.com (robert.j.brown) writes... >> >> Paulianity is a very backwards form of Christianity. It is probably >> derived from the Greek Mystery religious permeated culture he grew up >> in. > >Paul makes it pretty clear that he grew up very, very Jewish...zealous >for the cause of Judaism as big-time Christian persecutor. He studied >under Gamaliel which Paul claimed was a most famous Rabbi. Paul claimed >before his conversion that he was a Pharisee among Pharisees. > >What's this Mystery Religion stuff Paul grew up in ?? > The Greek Mystery religions were pervasive in Paul's time. Even as he was a student of Gamaliel (per questionable tradition) Paul would have grown up in a mystery influenced country. Humans are composits of all they know and have experienced. It would be impossible to isolate himself from the Powerful Greek Mystery Religions. Now not only was Paul influenced by this but all the Aposltles and Jesus himself were infected with the mystery memes. Look up the word mystery in a concordance and check the contexts of their apperance. Here's something from Martin Larson's STORY OF CHRISTIAN ORIGINS. "Cultic Preperation for Christianity A. Elements in Christianity 1. Four Primary Components. As we have noted, the Gospel Jesus consists of four basic components: soteriology, which came from the mystery-cults; ethics, which came primarily from India; eschatology, largely derived from Persia; and the supernatural Messianic concept, which was an Essene adaptation of a Zoroastrian doctrine. The history of Christianity over 18 centuries has proved consclusively that its devotees can take or leave the last three of these; some have embraced, others have rejected, one of more of them. But the one central hope which remains constant, the essential element which gives vitality to the religion of Jesus Christ, is the faith in Him as the SOTER, that is, the god-man who sacrificed Himself for us, whose eucharist makes us divine, and who confers upon us resurrection and blessed immortality. 2. Soteriology of Paramount Importance. We regard these two conclusions as inescapable: first, that the ancient world had been thoroughly prepared for Christianity by the god-man mystery cults; and, second, that without this preparation it could have never made any important headway. We note that great as was the debt of the Gospel Jesus to Buddhist and Essene ethics and to Zoroastrain metaphysics and eschatology, neither Persia nor India had ever known a soter and therefore to this day Christianity is able to win very few converts in these lands. The same held true for the Jews, the Arabians, the Iranians, the Japanese, the Chinese, and such primitive people as the American Indians. Among the peoples who had risen above barbarism, only those who had already accepted Osiris, Dionysus, Attis, Adonis or Mithra, could accept Jesus as their savior-god. 3. Source of Christian Appeal. Christianity was successful because of its similarity to other religions which had already permeated the Greco-Roman world. Its advantage was two fold: first, it was the creation of a people, the Jews, more dedicated to religion than any other; and second, it possesed an historical founder to whom was attributed almost every quality and acheivement with which the mystery-cults had endowed their own originators. 4. Why Pagans Accepted Christianity. The gods of the pagan cults were shadowy figures, which their followers exchanged for a savior so real and so human that they could almost grap His hand, or at least a hand which had lain in His. Christianity recruited its converts from the ranks of the mysteries by giving a new name to the doctrines and rituals which had been practiced since before the dawn of history. And this is the reason why Justin Martyr could say that 'the Jews, in truth, who had the prophecies and always looked for the coming of Christ, not only did not recognize Him, but... even mistreated Him. But the Gentiles, who had never heard of Christ until His apostles went from Jerusalem and preached about Him and gave them the prophecies, were filled with joy and faith, and turned away from their idols, and dedicated themselves to the Unbegotten God through Christ.' This writer, however, was not quite so naive as the words would indicate, for many passages in his works betray his acute awareness of the fact that, although the Greeks had never heard of Jesus, they were certainly familiar with older, similar soters." STORY OF CHRISTIAN ORIGINS, pgs 295-296. We know the Christian Fathers knew this fact intimately. Their weak and unconvincing excuse was that the "Devil having known the prophecies imitated them before the time of Christ in effort to confuse humanity." Later at some 100 CE there was an erudite and observant traveler named Pausanias. His travels recorded that by 100 CE every province, city, and village he visited in the Roman Empire "teemed" with the temples, altars and shrines of Dionysus, Demeter, Persephone, Cybele, Adonis (was Tammuz in the O.T.), Diana, Isis, Serapis, Hecate, Mithras, and others of congential nature. These religous archetypes patterned the Gentile mind not only for the coming Christian religion(s), but also for one another as adherents visited other temples and conversed with the visited clergies and laities. The various memes all swirled together to provide a fertile base to work from. ______________________________________________________________________________ Everyone intelligent knows and understands that I am completely and utterly unable to speak for Digital in matters of personal conviction. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Undercover Episkopope of the New Wave CyberNauts and Unelected Agent General of Chaos

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