Subject: Re: Goodbye Marriage and Morals! In article <2571@lindy.Stanford.EDU>, AS.CEC@for

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From: zursch@sco.COM (King Jeffie I) Subject: Re: Goodbye Marriage and Morals! In article <2571@lindy.Stanford.EDU>, AS.CEC@forsythe.stanford.edu (Charlie Channel, Jr.) writes: > While in college many, many moons ago, I read... > "Marriage and Morals." It advocated, among other things, companionate > marriages ("shacking-up"). > It seemed to make sense: Check out a few ladies, live with them until you > find the one you can get along with and live happily ever after. > Companionate marriage ("testing, 1,2,3,4...") was seen as a way to avoid > the horrors of marriage experienced by so many. That last sentence is key......religious or traditional people will put up with a horrible marriage because of their feelings about what the bible says about it....people who are willing to live together generally will not have the same reverence for biblical morality and will leave a horrible marriage.... > [He lists the following things as "evidence" that shacking up > is bad for you:] > Friday, March 31, 1989 _San Francisco Chronicle _, page 1.: > > "More Divorces After Cohabitation" by Ramon G. McLeod, Chronicle Staff > Writer. > > "[A] study released yesterday shows that they are much more likely to > divorce or separate than people who never live together before the > wedding." > "'Marriages preceded by cohabitation are much less stable than those that > are not'" the article says. > Apparently, the moral standards found in the Bible are verified by reality > again. Goodbye _Marriage and Morals _. What a bunch of poop! People who live together before they are married probably do not have the commitment to Traditional Western Christian Sex And Marriage Practices that people who do not live together or have sex before marriage do. It follows, therefore, that these same people, once married, will be more at ease seeking divorce or separation if the marriage is not good for them. Someone who is serious about Christian morality will not only balk at premarital cohabitation, but also at divorce and the breaking of their solemn union before God. Sure, divorce happens, even among Catholics, but it is less frequent among people with strong ties to traditional morality. This says nothing about the benefits of cohabitation, merely that traditional bible-believing people tend to behave one way while others behave in other ways. What I would like to see is a really good study on how many of those who stay married who did not cohabitate really enjoy the marriage. I've known more than one couple who stayed married "Because marriage is sacred and you shouldn't break it just because things aren't good." These were generally older, more traditional people...People who come together and move apart generally subscribe to the "Stay together as long as it's mutually satisfying" ethic. You are, of course, free to believe that this ethic is harmful, but don't come off with this "Gee, people who aren't traditional get divorced more so they're obviously wrong and the bible was right all along..." By this standard, keeping one's wife as a domestic slave might seem the best, most moral course....after all, she wouldn't leave you EVER, and domestic diputes would be nonexistent, as you have absolute rule over her....her happiness and fulfillment, are, of course, secondary to upholding the traditional morality..... To compare people who live according to the traditional Christian morality and those who do not is not viable. All this business spewed forth by dimwitted moralists about the "failure" of the sexual revolution is based on the metering methods of traditional morality.....cohabitation and eventual separation or divorce are not failed relationships; they are merely a different way of approaching the subject.... Jeff Zurschmeide -- +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Any contradictions in the above posting are an integral part of the belief system of the Church and are thus entirely non-contradictory. +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*

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