To: Steve Bedard Subject: Truth Oh, Steve!! SB>You have yet to show any evidence that

From:    William Brown
To:      Steve Bedard
Subject: Truth

Oh, Steve!!

SB>You have yet to show any evidence that Daniel was written after the facts.
SB>You seemed to indicate that Daniel was written during the exile yet there
SB>is a prophesy about Alexander the Great in Daniel 8:21-22.

To quote from "Asimov's Guide to the Bible":

     "The anachronisims of Daniel begin with the first verse:

          Daniel 1:1`.  In the third year of the reigh of Jehoiakim...
          came Nebuchadnezzar... unto Jerusalem and besieged it..
          Daniel 1:2.  And the Lord gave Jehoiakim.. into his
          [Nebuchadnezzar's] hand, with part of the vessels of the
          house of God:  which he carried into the land of Shinar...

     The third year of the reign of Jehoiakim would be 606 b.c., at
     which time Nebuchadnezzar was not yet king of Babylon.  It was in
     597 that Nebuchadnezzar took Jerusalem the first time (without
     actually destroying it).  Jehoiakim had died by then and it was his
     son Jehoiachin who was given into the hand of the conqueror.

     Then, too, `Shinar' is an archaism that no contemporary of
     Nebuchadnezzar would have used.  That name (the equivelent of
     `summer') was used to the land in Abraham's time.....  To the
     Hebrews of the Exile, it was Chaldea and the temptation was to push
     Chaldea into the past (and speak of Ur of the Chaldees, for
     instance) rather than pull Shinar forward.

     Finally, Nebuchadnezzar is always spelled with the incorrect `n' in
     Daniel; and never, as in Jerimiah and Ezekiel, which were really
     composed in the Exilic period, with an at least occasional `r' to
     make it the more nearly correct "Nebuchadrezzar."

There's more.  You really ought to read that book.  It's called
"Asimov's Guide to the Bible"-  it's published by Avenel, Crown
Publishers, by arrangement with Doubleday Inc.  There's more.  Check it
out.

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From:    John Musselwhite                         Kill
To:      Steve Bedard                             Msg #620, 20-Jun-93 12:30pm
Subject: Re: Prophesy

Hi Steve!

Wednesday June 16 1993, Steve Bedard writes to Tyler A. Wunder:

 SB> There is a prophesy about Alexander the Great in Daniel 8:21-22.

    In the KJV there is mention of the a king of "Grecia", but the RSV is
entirely different in its interpretation. There is no possible way you can
relate the subject of that quote to Alexander the Great.

    That is beside the fact Alexander III (The Great) lived from 356-323 BCE
and Daniel was written sometime around 167-164 BCE. If you wanted to relate
Daniel to it, it would be remembering legends rather than prophesy of a
future event.