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THEIST_WATCH Msg : 142 Written : 10/14/94 12:12am From : SCOTT FAUST Status : To : ALL Subj : CREATION OATH - CRS NOTE: This message was originally in conference "Church & State (Fidonet)" and was copied here by Robin Murray-o'hair. All members of the Creation Research Society must sign a statement of faith. This statement does not restrict itself to religious issues, but covers scientific ones as well. Here is the text taken from their membership application: 1. The Bible is the written word of God, and because we believe it to be inspired throughout, all of its assertions are historically and scientifically true in all the original autographs. To the students of nature, this means that the account of origins in Genesis is a factual presentation of simple historical truths. 2. All basic types of living things, including man, were made by direct creative acts of God during Creation Week as described in Genesis. Whatever biological changes have occurred since Creation have accomplished only changes within the original created kinds. 3. The great Flood described in Genesis, commonly referred to as the Noachian Deluge, was an historical event, worldwide in its extent and effect. 4. Finally, we are an organization of Christian men of science, who accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. The account of the special creation of Adam and Eve as one man and one woman, and their subsequent fall into sin, is the basis for our belief in the necessity of a Savior for all mankind. Therefore, salvation can come only through accepting Jesus Christ as Savior. Henry Morris gives an account of the establishment of the CRS in his book _History of Modern Creationism_ (Master Book Publishers, 1984). Morris himself figured in these events, along with about nine other members of the American Scientific Affiliation (an organization of evangelical christians with scientific backgrounds, founded in 1941 and still in existence). Both Morris and Walter Lammerts (the later being the dominant figure in the founding and early years of the society) were distressed by the ASA's "drift" towards tolerance of evolution and acceptance of the theory by many of its members. In his _History_, Morris discusses the various creationist organizations which appeared during the time between the Scopes trial in 1925, and the emergence of today's "creation science" during and after the 1960's. A major theme of his treatment is to note that every group which did not formally establish a clear and irrevocable commitment to "strict biblical creationism" eventually failed. They either disbanded entirely (often due to internal disagreements or infighting), or ended up accepting evolution, or at least conventional geology, in some substantial degree. I think that Morris makes his case fairly well. He convinced me that "creation science" cannot flourish in an atmosphere of open inquiry. It only seems to work when it is settled up-front what "scientific conclusions" are biblically acceptable, and which are verboten. In giving his account of the meeting (in 1963) at which the CRS was organized, Morris writes that: "The most important decision was to set forth a firmly creationist statement of faith to which all members must subscribe and which could never be changed." (p.186) This is exactly what was done, and Morris notes approvingly that: "At this writing (1984), the Society has continued for over 20 years as a strong creationist organization, which is in itself a clear testimony to the wisdom of this initial action." (p.187) Morris, however, could not be present at this meeting. Believe it not -- and those familiar with Morris will have little trouble believing it -- Morris found the doctrinal statement above not to be strict enough! "Because of my experiences with the Creation-Deluge Society and the American Scientific Affiliation, as well as all of our contacts, studies, and feed back in connection with _The Genesis Flood_, both John Whitcomb and I had hoped that the new Society would take a clear and firm stand on the recent literal six-day creation of all things, as well as flood geology. We were disappointed when these were not spelled out more clearly in the statement of faith adopted at Midland. Nevertheless, the statement as adopted at least *implied* these truths and was a tremendous improvement over anything previously used by any similar organization." (pp. 191-92) [John Whitcomb co-authored _The Genesis Flood_ (Baker Books, 1961) with Morris. This book is generally seen as heralding and stimulating the modern revival of young earth flood geology among fundamentalists.] At the first board meeting he did attend (in 1965), Morris tried to have the statement amended, but was foiled by the constitutional provision specifying that the statement could never be changed. "I was still very sensitive," Morris writes, "to the dangers of leaving these vital issues open to future accommodationist 'interpretations.' Finally, the Board did go on record with an understanding (one that would remain unwritten, however) that no publication of the Society, including articles published in the _Quarterly_, would ever advocate the 'old earth,' geological-ages position. Of course, this unwritten understanding will probably maintain this doctrinal integrity just as long as the Society president and _Quarterly_ editor agree with it. So far, this has been the case (as of 1984)." (p.192) * SLMR 2.1a * Not tonight dear, I have a modem... --- FMail/386 0.98a * Origin: The Open Forum SD CA (619)284-2924 (1:202/212) THEIST_WATCH Msg : 143 Written : 10/14/94 12:20am From : SCOTT FAUST Status : To : ALL Subj : CREATION OATH - ICR 1/2 NOTE: This message was originally in conference "Church & State (Fidonet)" and was copied here by Robin Murray-o'hair. The Institute for Creation Research began in 1970 as a division of Christian Heritage College, the later established by Henry Morris, Tim LaHaye and Scott Memorial Baptist Church (of San Diego, CA) as "the first college in modern times formed in order to provide a liberal arts education based specifically on strict Biblical creationism and full Biblical controls in all courses." (Henry M. Morris. _History of Modern Creationism_. Master Books Publishers, 1984; p.222.) Below is the ICR's statement of faith, written in 1981 when the ICR became formally independent of Christian Heritage College and was no longer governed by its statement of faith. This must be signed annually by all ICR staff and by its trustees. According to the ICR's by-laws, it cannot be changed. The statement of faith has two parts -- the "tenets of scientific creationism" and the "tenets of Biblical creationism." Also reproduced is a portion of the "ICR educational philosophy" which appears in the Institute's Graduate School catalog. My source is appendix G of the book cited in the preceding paragraph: ICR EDUCATIONAL PHILOSOPHY The programs and curricula of the Graduate School, as well as the activities of other ICR divisions, while similar in factual content to those of other graduate colleges, are distinctive in one major respect. The Institute for Creation Research bases its educational philosophy on the foundational truth of a personal Creator-God and His authoritative and unique revelation of truth in the Bible, both Old and New Testaments. This perspective differs from the evolutionary humanistic philosophy which has dominated most educational institutions for the past century, providing the most satisfying and meaningful structure of a consistently creationist and Biblical framework, and placing the real facts of science and history in the best context for effective future research and application. More explicitly, the administration and faculty of ICR are committed to the tenets of both scientific creationism and Biblical creationism as formulated below. A clear distinction is drawn between _scientific creationism_ and _Biblical creationism_ but it is the position of the Institute that the two are compatible and that all genuine facts of science support the Bible. ICR maintains that scientific creationism should be taught along with the scientific aspect of evolutionism in tax-supported institutions, and that both scientific and Biblical creationism should be taught in Christian schools. TENETS OF SCIENTIFIC CREATIONISM 1) The physical universe of space, time, matter and energy has not always existed, but was supernaturally created by a transcendent personal Creator who alone existed from eternity. 2) The phenomenon of biological life did not develop by natural processes from inanimate systems but was specially and supernaturally created by the Creator. 3) Each of the major kinds of plants and animals was created functionally complete for the beginning and did not evolve from some other kind of organism. Changes in basic kinds since their first creation are limited to "horizontal" changes (variation) within kinds, or "downward" changes (e.g., harmful mutations, extinctions). 4) The first human beings did not evolve from an animal ancestry, but were specially created in fully human form from the start. Furthermore, the "spiritual" nature of man (self-image, moral consciousness, abstract reasoning, language, will, religious nature, etc.) is itself a supernaturally created entity distinct from mere biological life. 5) The record of earth history, as preserved in the earth's crust, especially in the rocks and fossil deposits, is primarily a record of catastrophic intensities of natural processes, operating largely within uniform laws, rather than one of gradualism and relatively uniform process rates. There are many scientific evidences for a relatively recent creation of the earth and the universe, in addition to strong scientific evidence that most of the earth's fossiliferous sedimentary rocks were formed in an even more recent global hydraulic cataclysm. >>>CONTINUED IN THE NEXT MESSAGE * SLMR 2.1a * When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will evolve. --- FMail/386 0.98a * Origin: The Open Forum SD CA (619)284-2924 (1:202/212) THEIST_WATCH Msg : 144 Written : 10/14/94 12:22am From : SCOTT FAUST Status : To : ALL Subj : CREATION OATH - ICR 2/2 NOTE: This message was originally in conference "Church & State (Fidonet)" and was copied here by Robin Murray-o'hair. >>>CONTINUED FROM THE PRECEEDING MESSAGE 6) Processes today operate primarily within fixed natural laws and relatively uniform process rates but, since these were themselves originally created and are daily maintained by their Creator, there is always the possibility of miraculous intervention in these laws or processes by their Creator. Evidences for such intervention should be scrutinized critically, however, because there must be clear and adequate reason for any such action on the part of the Creator. 7) The universe and life have somehow been impaired since the completion of creation, so that imperfections in structure, disease, aging, extinctions, and other such phenomena are the result of "negative" changes in properties and processes occurring in an originally-perfect created order. 8) Since the universe and its primary components were created perfect for their purpose in the beginning by a competent and volitional Creator, and since the Creator does remain active in this now-decaying creation, there do exist ultimate purposes and meanings in the universe. Teleological considerations, therefore, are appropriate in scientific studies whenever they are consistent with the actual data of observation, and it is reasonable to assume that the creation presently awaits the consummation of the Creator's purpose. 9) Although people are finite and scientific data concerning origins are always circumstantial and incomplete, the human mind (if open to the possibility of creation) is able to explore the manifestations of that Creator rationally and scientifically, and to reach an intelligent decision regarding one's place in the Creator's plan. TENETS OF BIBLICAL CREATIONISM 1) The Creator of the universe is a triune God -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is only one eternal and transcendent God, the source of all being and meaning, and He exists in three Persons, each of whom participated in the work of creation. 2) The Bible, consisting of the thirty-nine canonical books of the Old Testament and the twenty-seven canonical books of the New Testament, is the divinely-inspired revelation of the Creator to man. Its unique, plenary, verbal inspiration guarantees that these writings, as originally and miraculously given, are infallible and completely authoritative on all matters with which they deal, free from error of any sort, scientific and historical as well as moral and theological. 3) All things in the universe were created and made by God in the six literal days of creation week described in Genesis 1:1-2:3, and confirmed in Exodus 20:8-11. The creation record is factual, historical, and perspicuous; thus all theories of origins or development which involve evolution in any form are false. All things which now exist are sustained and ordered by God's providential care. However, a part of the spiritual creation, Satan and his angels, rebelled against God after the creation and are attempting to thwart His divine purposes in creation. 4) The first human beings, Adam and Eve, were specially created by God, and all other men and women are their descendants. In Adam, mankind was instructed to exercise "dominion" over all other created organisms, and over the earth itself (an implicit commission for true science, technology, commerce, fine art, and education) but the temptation by Satan and the entrance of sin brought God's curse on that dominion and on mankind, culminating in death and separation from God as the natural and proper consequence. 5) The Biblical record of primeval earth history in Genesis 1-11 is fully historical and perspicuous, including the creation and fall of man, the curse on the creation and its subjection to the bondage of decay, the promised Redeemer, the worldwide cataclysmic deluge in the days of Noah, the post-diluvian renewal of man's commission to subdue the earth (now augmented by the institution of human government) and the origin of nations and languages at the tower of Babel. 6) The alienation of man from his Creator because of sin can only be remedied by the Creator Himself, who became man in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ, through miraculous conception and virgin birth. In Christ were indissolubly united perfect sinless humanity and full deity, so that His substitutionary death is the only necessary and sufficient price of man's redemption. That the redemption was completely efficacious is assured by His bodily resurrection from the dead and ascension into heaven; the resurrection of Christ is thus the focal point of history, assuring the consummation of God's purpose in creation. 7) The final restoration of creation's perfection is yet future, but individuals can immediately be restored to fellowship with their Creator, on the basis of His redemptive work on their behalf, receiving forgiveness and eternal life solely through personal trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, accepting Him not only as estranged Creator but also as reconciling Redeemer and coming King. Those who reject Him, however, or who neglect to believe on Him, thereby continue in their state of rebellion and must ultimately be consigned to the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels. * SLMR 2.1a * Answers $1, Short $5, Correct $25 (dumb looks free). --- FMail/386 0.98a * Origin: The Open Forum SD CA (619)284-2924 (1:202/212) *********************************************************************** * * * American Atheists website: * * PO Box 140195 FTP: * * Austin, TX 78714-0195 * * Voice: (512) 458-1244 Dial-THE-ATHEIST: * * FAX: (512) 467-9525 (512) 458-5731 * * * * Atheist Viewpoint TV: * * Info on American Atheists:, * * & American Atheist Press include your name and mailing address * * AANEWS -Free subscription: * * and put "info aanews" in message body * * * * This text may be freely downloaded, reprinted, and/other * * otherwise redistributed, provided appropriate point of * * origin credit is given to American Atheists. * * * ***********************************************************************


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